Songwriter Profile – Paula Breedlove

Paula Breedlove is a rarity in the song-writing fraternity in that she doesn’t play a musical instrument.  

So, she worked hard at perfecting her lyrics. She studied the works of Nashville’s country music song-writers, and began studying the Country music charts, keeping track of which songwriters used co-writers, and mailing her lyrics to music publishing companies in Nashville. The first of her songs to be recorded, More Nights, was co-written with the award-winning Nashville songwriter Bob Morrison, and was used on the soundtrack of the 1983 Dennis Quaid film, Tough Enough. 

Arguably her greatest accomplishment has been the 10-song collaboration with Mark ‘Brink’ Brinkman and Mike Evans, the bulk of the 13 songs on Rural Rhythm Records’ God Didn’t Choose Sides: Civil War True Stories about Real People. These 10 songs include the title track, which relates the brief laying down of arms as soldiers of the Blue and the Grey, each occupying a different bank of the Rapidan River, as they witness the baptism of a Confederate soldier. 

What musical interests, if any, did your family have prior to and around the time that you were born? 

“Most people who are in the music business are born into families who were also musicians or singers, but that is not the case with me. I am the first to take the musical road through life. Born into the 1950s, although my parents didn’t play any instruments, they loved all kinds of music. I remember that their favorite song was Indian Love Call by Slim Whitman, and it remained their favorite for their entire life. They actually met at the historic Zoar Hotel Ballroom where people still did the polka and waltz. I still love a waltz today because I grew up dancing to those wonderful 3/4 time songs with my father. My parents were also great polka dancers and taught me how to do it well at an early age. I don’t think we ever missed an episode of The Lawrence Welk Show with his famous bubbles.

As a little girl, I was also introduced to all kinds of music while taking tap and ballet lessons, but I believe they always wanted a musician in the family because they kept an old piano in the dining room that I think belonged to my Grandmother. I don’t remember anyone else ever being able to play that piano, but they had it tuned up and had me take lessons on it from Mrs. Tschantz who lived just up the road.”

So, you were taught to dance and play the piano; did anybody teach you how to sing? 

“The short answer to that question would be “No.” My first experience in singing, however, was at a children’s Christmas party at our church. In order to get a Christmas Gift, each child had to perform in some way for Santa. I chose to sing He’s Got The Whole World In His Hands, and I was a big hit. After that, I was asked on a regular basis to sing in church, but singing those hymns was a whole lot different than singing He’s Got The Whole World in his Hands, which requires a voice range that almost anyone can reach. In those days, the church piano player never thought about changing the key of a song out of a hymn book to better suit a singer with an alto voice like mine. After that I settled for singing alto in the school choir.

In spite of my singing limitations, I still loved music and wanted to be a part of it, which is why being a songwriter was such a perfect choice for me.”

What was the next phase in your musical development?

“When looking for just about any type music I could enjoy at home, I would listen to that little black FM radio we had in our house. I don’t remember that radio not being there. Then, for a birthday present, I got a little 45 [rpm] record player and joined a record club. The first record I ever purchased was Blueberry Hill, and I also remember purchasing a 45 [rpm] record of Tom Dooley. I still have all those old 45s in my closet somewhere. 

As a teenager, like everyone else I knew, I listened to pop music and loved anything they played that we could dance to at the High School Sock Hops. I am sorry that the kids today are missing out on the fun of those sock hops after the ball games. I also remember coming home from school, watching American Bandstand, and doing the jitter bug with my mother.

When the variety shows, which are still the best things that have ever been on TV, became popular I watched and loved them all. The Glen Campbell Show was my favorite. Country music was also in my blood, and after I was married, we would go to every country music concert that was in driving distance. My favorite female country singer was and still is Dolly Parton. My favorite male country singer is John Denver, and I was also influenced by Ronnie Milsap, Don Williams, Eddie Rabbitt, and the list could go on. I began to study the songs and especially the lyrics, and subscribed to Country Song Roundup magazine where I could not only study the lyrics but read about the top songwriters. That is when I started putting my own ideas and lyrics to paper with an old antique Royal typewriter. And so, it began.”

What were the stages from leaving high school to getting a song recorded? 

“Between graduating from High School and getting my first song recorded, I got married and had two children. My husband, John, had similar musical interests, and when I began to write, he was very supportive, and did a lot of the song plugging for me. His family was originally from North Carolina and my mother-in-law Fannie Lee became a big influence on my musical preferences of bluegrass, country and Southern Gospel. Fannie Lee also became one of my biggest fans.

When my kids were old enough, we would make trips to Nashville, and have them with us when we were visiting publishing companies on Music Row. Everyone thought they were such well behaved kids because they were so good when we were in the offices, but when we got back to the hotel room, it was a different story. One of the first Music Row writers to work with me on a song was award-winning songwriter Bob Morrison, who was a staff writer for Combine Music. Our first song, More Nights, took a long time to get finished because we did it all via snail mail or an occasional phone call. It was recorded in 1983 by Lane Brody for the Movie Soundtrack of Tough Enough staring Dennis Quaid. At that time, I was also fortunate to write with award winning songwriters Johnny MacRae, Archie Jordan, and Wayland Holyfield.”

So, in recent years you have been able to exchange E-mails and use other electronic means to get a song written, as with your regular co-writer Brad Davis ….  

“When Internet access finally came to my house, co-writing became so much easier. I could send a lyric to a co-writer and receive a rough recording of the melody back. I could also send a finished demo to an artist via the Internet, and never have to spend hours making cassette tapes to send via snail mail. I do still occasionally make CDs with songs to give someone, but even those are slowly becoming a thing of the past. A lot of writers still like to be with someone face to face to co-write, but I have become very accustomed to long distance writing, and have a select group of co-writers that have worked well with me that way. That would include Brad Davis, Mark Brinkman, Bob Morrison, Archie Jordan and Gerald Crabb. That way of co-writing gives me time to really ponder the song idea before sending back re-writes.

I always keep a pencil and paper beside my bed so, I can write down any ideas I have in the middle of the night, because by morning I usually forget what they were.”

Just when Breedlove was beginning to make progress with her songs, with recordings by Lane Brody, Terri Gibbs, and Marie Osmond, the dreaded disease cancer hit her multiple times. In 1990 her mother was diagnosed with breast cancer, and in the following year came her own diagnosis. After her mother passed away in 1993 Breedlove became the carer for her father until he passed in 1994. Then in 2000, her daughter became the fourth generation in a row to have breast cancer. 

Dealing with all this meant that her songwriting was, understandably, neglected for several years. 

However, eventually, she did resume her passion. Paula doesn’t remember the exact year, but she recalls that it was at a time when her son returned home from Belmont University where he was majoring in music. It was when he was playing his guitar and bringing music back into the house that she was inspired to start writing seriously once more. 

“My husband said he would support me by handling the business end of things so I could focus on the creative part. I learned that my best way to overcome the hardships in my life was to go back to writing again, and I haven’t quit since then.”

Health problems recurred, setting Breedlove back a bit during the last few years, however bluegrass music provided her saving grace … 

“Actually, song-writing is what helped me get through all the pain and hard times. Last time I was in the hospital after surgery, 4th & Goal was becoming a hit song, and I can’t tell you how that helped get me through everything. I really enjoyed bragging to every doctor or nurse who came into my room about my #1 song! I have actually started writing a short biography that may become a book some day. It combines my song-writing journey with my cancer struggles. I am calling it ‘Write’ To Survive, because sometimes I don’t know what I would do if I wasn’t writing songs.”

So, tell me more about how you got back to song-writing again.

“The nineties (which I call the Cancer Years) just seemed to slip away, and much of it is still a fog to me today. Sometime after 2000 came rolling in, I finally got back to writing again full time, but it took a while to get reconnected with people in the music business. While my husband worked on that, I began compiling songs with my long-time writing partner Brad Davis. Eventually from those songs, Grasstowne recorded Love You Don’t Know. That tune was recorded again a few years later by Darren Beachley & The Legends of the Potomac. That is pretty much where my bluegrass songs finally got some attention. Also, during that time when Brad was working with Tommy Shaw (from Styx) on an acoustic project, he recommended me to Tommy to write a lyric to a song that Tommy had a title and melody for, but needed someone to do the rest of the lyric. That’s when I wrote The Great Divide with Tommy, and it became the title track for his bluegrass CD. It featured Alison Krauss singing background vocals. That was and will also be a major thrill for me. It also finally impressed my kids, and my grandson began calling me a rock star. 

One of the best ways to get back into the music business if you love bluegrass is by attending the bluegrass festivals. You can hear what type of songs each group is doing, touch base with all the artists and have a great time doing it. While attending many of these festivals I kept running into songwriter Mark (Brink) Brinkman, and we finally decided to try writing together. That turned out to be a good decision. It led to us working for three years, along with writer Mike Evans, on a Civil War project for Rural Rhythm Records. For that project I co-wrote ten songs, including the title track God Didn’t Choose Sides, that was recorded by Marty Raybon. These songs were all true stories about real people who lived through the Civil War. It featured a different artist on each song, including Marty Raybon, Dale Ann Bradley, Lonesome River Band, Russell Moore, and the list goes on. It also landed me and Mark Brinkman nominations for IBMA’s Songwriter of the year award in 2013. Needless to say, I was glad that I had decided to start writing again.”

Marty Raybon sings the title song God Didn’t Choose Sides  

 

I don’t want budding song-writers to think that it’s easy … recordings are automatic. So, was there ever a time when you struggled to get artists to record your songs and when was that?

“To answer this question, I guess I can just say that it’s taken me over 30 years to finally get a #1 song. So, no it’s not easy and even now recordings are not automatic. The first struggle is to find artists who are willing to listen to your songs. That can sometimes come down to: “You need to have success to get others to listen, yet you have to get someone to listen to become successful.” . You just have to keep trying. Bluegrass artists are much more open to listening to songs. Most of them don’t care where a great song comes from, so they try to listen to everything. Even now, it still isn’t easy because there are a lot of talented songwriters out there to compete with. Many artists also write their own tunes, so you have to try to write something even better. I love the creative process of writing songs, but I’m not so fond of the business side of it. I’m thankful to have my husband, John, to help out with that part of it. The best advice I can give is to do it because you love it, and if you love it, never give up.”

What advice would you give to those who aspire to be a song-writer? Is there a maxim that you live by as far as song-writing is concerned?

“My first and foremost advice to any budding songwriter would be to do it because you love it. If you love it. it will eventually show. If you do find success, that is just icing on the cake. The journey to get there should be one that you enjoy regardless of what might be waiting around the next bend. I actually believe that song-writing is good therapy. It has gotten me through a lot of rocky places in my life. Also, make use of all advice and reasons for rejections, but remember that one bad opinion is just that, one bad opinion. Don’t take it personal, just keep on writing. I am getting songs recorded today that were written over 30 years ago and rejected many times. It’s a matter of getting the song to the right place at the right time, and that can’t happen unless you keep on trying.”

Songwriter Profile – Ray Edwards, Melody Man

James Ray Edwards was born in Wilmington, Delaware, on April 16, 1954.

His family moved to Winston-Salem, North Carolina, which is a hotbed for bluegrass music, when he was 10 years old.  As they say, you can shake a tree in North Carolina and a banjo player will fall out.

He started playing banjo when he was 13 years old.

Edwards was declared World Champion Banjo Player in 1973 and 1974.

One of the most prolific melody writers in bluegrass music, he was a member of the High Country Boys (from 1970 to 1973), Southbound (1973-1974), Jeanie C. Riley’s Red River Symphony (1975-1978), Tom T Hall’s Storytellers (1978–1983) and singer, songwriter and actor Ed Bruce’s Tennessee Cowboy Band (1984-2004).  He also worked with Randy Travis, Sammy Kershaw, Lynn Anderson and Cliff Waldron & the New Shades of Grass.

Edwards was a staff musician on Tom T. Hall’s Pop Goes The Country Club for three seasons (1980-1982) playing steel guitar, rhythm guitar, banjo, Dobro® and mandolin. Some of the highlights playing with Tom T. included the Grand Ole Opry, Carnegie Hall, The Smithsonian Institute and playing at The White House for former President Jimmy Carter.  By request, Edwards played a solo rendition on the Dobro® of one of the President’s favorite songs, Over the Waves. Edwards played multiple instruments on all of Tom T. Hall’s latter RCA and Mercury-Polygram albums between 1978 and 1983. Edwards feels his finest work is on Tom T’s RCA album, Tom T Hall Live At The Opry House, which includes all of Tom’s hits plus a bluegrass segment in the show. The admiration and respect Tom T. has for Edwards as a musician, songwriter and person is obvious in his lengthy, sincere introduction of a very special Storyteller.

However, his performing highlight is filling in for Bill Emerson with the Country Gentlemen at Lake Norman Music Hall in 1973 and getting the opportunity to work with the great Doyle Lawson, Charlie Waller, Bill Yates and Ricky Skaggs.

His song-writing highlights are having co-written Hard Rock Mountain Prison (‘Til I Die) and Carolina Moonshine Man, which were nominated by the IBMA and SPBGMA for Bluegrass Song of the Year.

He formed his own publishing company, the rapidly expanding Silver Stirrup Music, in 1980.

Was your family musically inclined?

“My father was not musically inclined but my mother could sing and play a few chords on the guitar and piano. She had started taking guitar lessons shortly before she was killed in a tragic auto accident in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, in 1993.”

How did your awareness of bluegrass music develop?

“My awareness of bluegrass music developed after making several trips to Delbarton, West Virginia, as a boy to visit my great-grandfather who played claw hammer banjo. ‘Poppy Kirk’ was my inspiration to play the banjo and his son, my great-uncle Charles fuelled the fire when I heard him play Scruggs-style banjo. When I heard Earl play Foggy Mountain Breakdown in the Bonnie & Clyde movie in 1967, I was all in. I had to learn the instrument.

Were you aware at that time that Foggy Mountain Breakdown was an iconic bluegrass instrumental?

“I never heard the instrumental until I saw the movie. That’s when I really fell in love with the banjo.”

What other musical styles were you aware of?

“The first music I really got interested in growing up was rock ‘n’ roll. I’d say this was pretty normal for kids of my age back in the early to mid.1960s. I loved the Beatles, The Rolling Stones and The Dave Clark Five. Several years later, country music became my favorite music and took center stage when I heard Bobby Bare’s Detroit City. I played that 45-rpm record over and over on our home record player and nearly drove my parents crazy. I loved Claude King’s Wolverton Mountain, Lefty Frizzell’s Long Black Veil and Johnny Cash’s, Don’t Take Your Guns To Town as well.”

When did you become aware of the nature of songs and the concept of song-writing?

“The late and great Roy McMillan was the first songwriter I ever met. I went to work for the High Country Boys in 1970. Being 16 years old at the time, I was too busy learning how to play the banjo. The art of song-writing never crossed my mind.

Roy did very few cover tunes on stage and only recorded his songs and an original tune or two written by his band members after he signed the deal with Rebel Records in 1971. So from day one, I had a steady diet of Roy’s original material and I slowly began to appreciate the gift of song-writing and what a great songwriter he actually was.  he fact that many groups in bluegrass music today still record his material speaks volumes.

Roy didn’t openly encourage any of the High Country Boys to help write material for the group but he was quick to put one of your songs on the list to be recorded for his next album when you’d written a good one.  Rhythm guitar player Grady Bullins (deceased) had been writing songs for a while when I joined the group.  One song he was sitting on was High Alleghenies which we worked up and recorded on our first Rebel album, High Country.  The song was recorded several years ago by Big Country Bluegrass and became a #1 song and also nominated for SPBGMA Song of the Year in 2010.  I spent many weekends with Grady and his family in Lawsonville, North Carolina, after becoming a High Country Boy.  It was on one of those weekends I wrote my first song, the instrumental, Comanche Chimes.  I was playing my banjo and tossing some ideas around playing out of A-minor when the melodies started coming to me.  The verse, chorus and “chime” bridge took only about an hour to write in its entirety.  It was included on Roy’s first Rebel LP as well.  I re-recorded the song with the Southbound configuration of Lou Reid, Jimmy Haley and Dennis Severt several years later.  The second song I wrote was also an instrumental called, Bootlegger’s Breakdown, which appeared on Roy’s second Rebel project, Up in the High Country.

If it wasn’t for Roy McMillan, there wouldn’t be a Ray Edwards, musician or songwriter and I’ll never forget him. I have four Roy McMillan songs in my Silver Stirrup Music catalog and they’re all great songs… Each song is very special with a story behind it…

I produced That’s When My Heart Wants To Die on Randy Travis’s front man, Drew Sexton (deceased) for a single release in 1985 and in 1986, we released the Roy McMillan, Terry Foust and Ray Edwards collaboration, Portrait Of Sin, as a follow-up single.  Portrait of Sin is a fantastic song which has just been recorded by Travers Chandler & Avery Country for Patuxent Records. The band’s new CD is scheduled to be released early next year. I was honored to play banjo on the project and I look forward to playing banjo with Travers on the festival circuit in 2015.

The Mountain Way is a song that I got writer’s block on back in 2005 and couldn’t write the second verse. I asked Roy for his help and he wrote an incredible verse for the song in one afternoon. I regard it as one of the best songs I’ve ever been part of writing and I never get tired of hearing it. Lou Reid & Carolina recorded the song for Lonesome Day Records in 2005.

The last Roy McMillan song I have is very special. Roy gave me the lyrics to this song many years ago and asked me to write the melody. The perfect melody always escaped me. After his death several months ago, I pulled the song out and started working on it again. I had just been diagnosed with prostate cancer and to be honest, I really wasn’t in the writing mood and I still haven’t gotten the concentration and creativity back I generally have, but I’m getting there. I wanted to get this song finished and demoed as soon as possible so I asked my old friend Lou Reid to write the melody. With Lou’s help, it should turn out to be a dandy.”

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Songwriter Profile – Milan Miller

Milan Miller started learning guitar around the age of five. Guitar is his primary instrument, but he also plays the mandolin, bass, piano, and “just enough banjo and Dobro to get myself into trouble.”

Miller’s song catalog includes such Balsam Range staples as Calloway County Flood, Burning Georgia Down (written with Mark Bumgarner), Caney Fork River, Hard Price to Pay, The Other Side, Papertown, a song about the resilience of working people, I Ain’t Leavin’, A Day in the Life of a Railroad Spike, The Other Side of the Mountain, Chasing Someone Else’s Dreams, and I Spend My Days Below the Ground, a story about the hard life in a mining town that Miller co-wrote with Mark Bumgarner.

In addition he has written Pretty Little Girl From Galax and Little Magnolia (written with Adam Wright), both recorded by Russell Moore & IIIrd Tyme Out; Terry Baucom’s award-winning What’ll I Do (co-written with Mark W. Winchester), and Carry Me Back to Carolina; In A Perfect World (written with Glenn Simmons), recorded by Darren Nicholson; and The Boy From Valdese, a tribute to the late George Shuffler recorded with the aid of Shuffler’s brother Ron.

Two of these, Pretty Little Girl from Galax (in 2012) and Papertown (2013) were among IBMA’s final nominations for the Song of the Year award.

He moved to Nashville, Tennessee, in 1999 and he still resides there with his wife and their beagle, Little Sadie.

Since 2003 Miller has had his own home studio that he uses primarily for his own recording needs, but from time to time for work on projects for other artists also.

Other career highlights include numerous appearances on the Grand Ole Opry and being featured in Guitar Player magazine.

In February 2013, Miller released a solo CD, Poison Cove, which featured a dozen excellent songs.

Did you grow up in an environment where music was an important element?

“I grew up in Waynesville, NC, in the midst of the Great Smoky Mountains. The area has always been a breeding ground for traditional pickers and singers. My parents were not musicians, but they definitely were music lovers. The radio was always on and we went to see live music on a regular basis.”

When did you become aware of bluegrass music, and what were the circumstances?

“My introduction and eventual passion for bluegrass was a very gradual process. I started trying to play the guitar when I was about five years old, and took lessons for a few years from a gentleman named Bill Phillips. He was an accomplished musician on guitar, fiddle, and mandolin. Much of his teaching method was based upon classic songs from the first generation of bluegrass. Through those songs he helped me put a number of things in my musical tool belt that I still use today, including the importance of melody, timing, and how to compliment what the singer and other players are doing without being a distraction. When I look back upon that early training, I do have to admit that the content, emotion, and raw energy that contributed to the greatness of those songs may have been more than I could fully comprehend as a youngster. At the time, I was much more enamored by the songs that I was hearing on country radio.

Around the time that I went to college, a couple of artists really made an impression on me. One of the definite perks of attending Appalachian State University in Boone, North Carolina, was living in the same town as Doc Watson. I could never place a value on the experience of being able to see him perform in such informal and intimate settings, anywhere from the local flea market to the corner of a small family restaurant. My discovery of the Tony Rice catalog was also a big part of this period of my life. Obviously his guitar playing caught my ear, but it was his voice, the strength of the songs, and the impeccable arrangements that really held my attention.

After finishing college and just prior to heading off to Nashville, I moved back to my hometown. My friends Buddy Melton (of Balsam Range), Kevin Duckett, and Patrick Bradshaw were big fans of the newer bands that had popped up on the bluegrass scene. They introduced me to the likes of IIIrd Tyme Out, the Lonesome River Band, and the Lou Reid and Terry Baucom projects. It was during this period that I finally realized that bluegrass music could have just as much impact and drive as things with drums and electric instruments. Upon digging a little deeper I was really inspired by the work of folks like Hot Rize, the Seldom Scene, and Boone Creek. I eventually found my way back to Bill Monroe, Flatt & Scruggs, and the Stanley Brothers; many of the first tunes that I learned to play on guitar, only this time with a little more perspective and musical experience that helped me to understand the mastery behind those songs and recordings.”

That was an early age to start writing songs; what prompted you to do so and were there any early influences in this process?

“I don’t remember a time that I wasn’t interested in playing, singing, and writing. I wasn’t aware of who was writing the songs way back then, but the artists that really caught my ear were folks like Ronnie Milsap, the Statler Brothers, and definitely Buck Owens. I was so impressed by Buck that I even had a toy version of his red, white, and blue guitar, along with a pair of Hee Haw overalls.

I think that my initial reason for trying to write songs was probably out of necessity. I couldn’t play guitar well enough to play the songs that my favorite singers were doing, so I just made up my own.

OK, what was the first song that you had recorded (and by whom was that)?

“Balsam Range was kind enough to include two of my songs on their 2007 debut album, Marching Home. One was The Calloway County Flood, and another called Burning Georgia Down that I co-wrote with my old friend Mark Bumgarner. I really can’t say enough good things about Buddy Melton and the guys from Balsam Range. They went out on a limb and started recording my songs long before anyone else would even give them a listen.”

Tell me about the frustrations that you were experiencing at that time and about how you went about overcoming them, please.

“I actually think that the important thing for me was to not get frustrated. In a lot of ways, bluegrass artists are much more accessible than any other genre of music. As a result, they are often bombarded with material from every angle. When you consider the number of songs being written every day, getting something recorded is beyond a long shot.

Songwriting is no different than any other occupation. When trying to get a job it always helps to have relevant experience, a proven track record, and personal references. Relationships are often necessary to get a foot in the door, and that is exactly what my connection with the guys from Balsam Range provided for me. When things like Burning Georgia Down and Caney Fork River started getting played on the radio, it became a little easier to start a conversation with other artists.

I am still very much a newcomer, so when I have the opportunity to pitch songs to an artist, I do everything that I can to present my material in a professional manner. I have a small studio at my home and basic skills on a few different bluegrass instruments, so I have the ability to do demos that represent my songs in more of a full band format. I spend a fair amount of time studying the artist’s previous work, and then try to find things from my catalog that I feel have potential for fitting in stylistically. For good measure, I sometimes throw in a wildcard or two, just in case the artist is looking to change things up a little.

After I send songs to an artist, I have found that for me it is best not to ponder the situation any further. If someone wants to record a song, chances are I will get a call. If I don’t hear anything, then it is a safe assumption that nothing that I sent piqued their interest. To me, nothing good can come from repeatedly contacting the artist to get feedback about the songs. I’m pretty sure that no one wants to have to tell a songwriter why their song did not make the cut.

The other thing that I continue to learn when it comes to an artist choosing to record a song is the importance of timing. When someone passes on a tune for an upcoming project, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they did not like the song. Maybe they already had a song with a similar groove or sentiment, or for some other reason it didn’t fit with the particular group of songs that they already had assembled. There is always the chance that they may come back to it in the future.

A good example of this scenario is a song called I Spend My Days Below the Ground that I wrote with Mark Bumgarner. It is included on Five, the Balsam Range album that came out a few weeks ago. The song was written in 2004. Buddy Melton has had the demo since before they released their first album in 2007. When he called to tell me that it was going to be on their new record, it was a really nice surprise. I had not thought about the song in years, but a decade later it found a good home.”

Who were your main influences?

“A few years ago I finally began to realize that good ideas and a few good lines do not automatically result in good songs. To try and improve my understanding of the craft of song-writing, I started studying the work of writers like Jerry Salley and Carl Jackson. The balance between inspiration and song-craft that both of those guys display in their songs is impeccable. The rhymes are always tight, each line leads the listener toward the title and the melodies are always very catchy.

When it comes to authenticity, it is hard to beat Larry Cordle. He has such a natural way of turning phrases and telling stories. I’m also a big fan of Shawn Camp, Chris Stapleton, and Darrell Scott. I love how they aren’t afraid to push the music into new directions, but somehow always have a foot firmly planted in tradition.”

Songwriter Profile – Dave Carroll

Dave Carroll was born August 7, 1964, in Ashland, Kentucky. Although Carroll was always fascinated with music, he didn’t learn to play guitar until he was 17 years old.

Carroll was motivated to learn to play bluegrass guitar when he attended a bluegrass concert in his community in which a local band that included his cousin, Fiddling Marvin Carroll, was performing.

Within a few months, he began playing in local bands and writing his own material.

His musical influences include Bill Monroe, Flatt & Scruggs, Jimmy Martin, The Stanley Brothers, Doyle Lawson, Larry Sparks, and The Lost and Found, and singers like the late Keith Whitley, Charlie Waller, and Tony Rice.

In 2003, Carroll helped found the band New River Line.

Subsequently, in 2012, he helped to found Hammertowne.

Carroll’s songs have been recorded by some of the most prominent artists in bluegrass music, such as The Lonesome River Band (The Game Is Over), Russell Moore & IIIrd Tyme Out (Old Kentucky Farmers), Lou Reid and Carolina (Brighter Shade of Blue), Junior Sisk and Ramblers Choice (It’s Good To See The Homeplace Once Again), Blue Moon Rising (This Old Martin Box), Ernie Thacker and Route 23 (Detroit City Chill), Jeff Parker, and Grasstowne (This Old Guitar and Me).

Most of his songs have, however, been recorded by Carroll’s own bands, New River Line and Hammertowne.

Blue Moon Rising’s This Old Martin Box got up to #3 on the Bluegrass Unlimited Chart in 2006 and Scorcher Carroll’s Farm, which is on New River Line’s Chasing My Dreams CD, was voted Song of the Year in 2007 on the America’s Bluegrass Chart. The recording of This Old Guitar and Me was among the final nominations for IBMA Recorded Event of the Year.

Where were you born and raised?

“I’m from north-eastern Kentucky, born in Ashland and reared near Grayson.”

When and how did you become interested in music?

“I started playing and singing when I was about 17 (I’m 44 now), and felt compelled to write almost immediately as I was trying to learn to pick as well.”

When and why did you become interested in bluegrass music?

“Well I had always loved music, but didn’t learn to play until I was 17 years old. My desire to learn, was sparked when I went to the local community center and caught a local bluegrass band’s show. The bluegrass bug really bit hard, and I wanted so badly to learn.”

Do you remember the first song that you wrote?

“Not really..and probably for good reason. But my third attempt to write turned out to be a song called The Game Is Over. I was in my first recording project at Ottis Lynn Dillon’s famed River Track Studio in Louisa, Kentucky, in 1988. Ottis had a visitor on that day, a guy by the name of Tim Austin, founding member of the Lonesome River Band. Well it may as well have been Elvis to me, I was such a big fan of Tim and Lonesome River Band. Tim and Ottis were in the control room (as was I, huddled in a corner), and were talking about some tracks that Tim had recorded at his brand new studio (Doobie Shea) up in Ferrum, VA. Ottis just happen to pull up my tracks in preparation for mixing.

The song that came up was The Game Is Over. Tim stopped talking and just listened. I heard him ask Ottis, who is that? Ottis told him it was me and my band. Tim introduced himself (not that he needed to) and told me that he really liked the tune, going on to ask if I would mind sending him a copy when it was done. Well, as soon as I was able to get back down off the ceiling, I surely agreed to do send him a copy. Months and months went by, when one day I got a call at work from Tim who informed me that Lonesome River Band wanted to include my song on their next album. Well needless to say I was beside myself. I thought, wow, this songwriting deal is pretty easy! Of course it’s not, I just got lucky. You know, things like that happen to real songwriters often, I’m sure. But to me, life was complete. So that was my first tune that got picked up, and it was on the Carrying The Tradition album, which won album of the year in 1991. After that I got to know Tim, and he actually produced a record of mine a couple of years later.”

Who was the first bluegrass songwriter to make an impression on you and why?

“Tom T. Hall. He and I are from the same hometown, Olive Hill, Kentucky. When I was just a kid, Tom T. would come back to Olive Hill and put on a big outdoor concert on July 4th and my mom and dad took me. Even though I was just a youngster, and years before I even thought about playing and singing, those songs he sang made an impression on me. Unlike any other music I’d heard, the words really meant something to me, because they spoke about our way of living in the country. One of his songs, The Homecoming, even mentioned my brother in law Jan Evans, who grew up with Tom T. He is to me, the ‘Dean’ of songwriters.”

Which of your songs gives you the most satisfaction and why?

“Boy, that’s tough. I don’t know that there’s one. I’ve gotten satisfaction from them all. People tell me all the time, and some of them very accomplished musicians, that they’d give anything to be able to write, so I don’t take any of them for granted. This Old Guitar and Me I’d have to say is one of my favorites.”

Which comes first; the melody or the lyrics?

“People like yourself often ask me to define my writing style, and I always tell them that I don’t know that I have one. I write about everyday things, nothing fancy, just things that I relate to and see going on around me. Often times things from the past, sometimes even the future. I don’t work at writing, although I’m sure I should. Most of my songs write themselves. It has been my experience that those tunes turn out to be the best ones. Heck, I wrote The Game Is Over in about two minutes, sitting on my mom’s couch, watching Bugs Bunny!

I’ve never really considered myself a songwriter, I mean I don’t pitch songs to people. Someone will hear something that I’ve done and give me a holler. I have some heroes and people that I look up to that are great song writers, like Larry Cordle (who’s my favorite), Tom T Hall (who is also from Carter County and actually grew up with my brother in law Jan Evans, up on Tick Ridge), Dave Maggard, and the great Bill Castle, who is a good buddy of mine, and a fabulous writer. I consider all of these guys great writers, but sure don’t consider myself to be a real songwriter like they are.

I just kind of write out of necessity for my band, so we can do our own thing, as it were.”

Songwriter Profile – Bob Amos

Bob Amos is best known as the leader of the Front Range, a quartet formed in 1984 and based in the Denver and Fort Collins area, named after the eastern slopes of the Colorado Rockies.

He was born the fourth of five children and was influenced early on by his eldest brother, who brought bluegrass records into the household.

Amos started singing in choirs/choral groups, in church and/or school, when he was about six or seven years old. His deep-seated love of harmony singing comes from those times. He started playing guitar when he was about 12, and banjo shortly afterwards.

He played in local bluegrass bands mostly as a banjo player and part singer, in Delaware during high school, and in college in Ohio, then during his graduate school days in Arizona, where he earned a Master’s degree in geology. In 1982 he moved to Colorado to work as a geologist. Amos played around with various friends before forming Front Range with the help of mandolin player Mike Lantz.

They recorded a couple of self-released albums, made an appearance at the IBMA World of Bluegrass convention in 1991 and shortly afterwards signed with Sugar Hill Records. At about that time the band line-up consolidated with the addition of Ron Lynam (banjo) and Bob Dick (bass); Amos had switched to playing guitar when the band was first formed.

Amos penned most of the songs that Front Range recorded. These include Julia, High Mountain Meadow, He is Risen, Absence makes the Heart grow Fonder, The Road Home, Delaware, The Only One I Love, Waiting For the Real Thing, Chains of Darkness, Without You, So Far Away, Happy After All, The Hills I Call Home, Two Empty Arms, Forever By My Side, So Many Pathways, I Am the Way, Judge Not Your Brother, My Heavenly Home, He’s Coming Back, Under the Influence of LoveWay Back in the Hills, He’s Everywhere, the ghostly tale of The Lantern, Kissing The Blues Goodbye, Montana Gal, Leave Me To Cry, Sweetest Flower of My Heart, Silent Ground and Sing Me A River.

In 1991 his song One Beautiful Day won the IBMA Gospel Recording of the Year award.

Hot Rize is one of the few bands to record a Bob Amos song, adding Where the Wild River Rolls to their last album. Otherwise, One Beautiful Day has been recorded by some regionally known bands, as has High Mountain Meadow.  Amos comments, “I haven’t ever purposely written for other people. I just write what I like to write, and sometimes other folks pick up the songs”.

Front Range disbanded in 2006 after Lantz died of brain cancer.

Since then Amos has relocated to Vermont where he has established a recording studio and is producing album projects for other artists, as well as working on his own projects.  He continues to perform regionally with various ensembles also.

Those include Wherever I Go (released in 1999), Reels of Life (2004) and Wide Open Blue (2010). They all contained an eclectic mix of songs that Amos has written, regardless of style. It was a way for him to stretch out as a songwriter, and embrace all the styles of music that he loves.

From 2005 to 2010 he led The Bob Amos Band, which was ‘a singer-songwriter band,’ and included his son Nate and daughter Sarah.

Currently, he fronts a bluegrass band called Bob Amos & Catamount Crossing.

His latest album is the excellent all-bluegrass collection Borrowed Time (Bristecone 1007).

 

Where were you born and raised?

Delaware during the school year (my Dad taught school there), and Vermont in the summers. I have strong ties to both places.

In the notes to Borrowed Time you say that your mother nurtured your artistic bent. How did that manifest itself?

She always supported me, and she was also an inspirational figure for me. My father was a science teacher, and while he always appreciated my talent, he would often think in more traditional or practical terms, as in “music is fine for a hobby, but what are you really going to do?”

But my Mom from the start recognized my connection with and the depth of my passion for music. Her father had been quite musical, and they were very close. Over the years she encouraged me to listen to my heart and follow my dreams.

She wasn’t a musician herself, but she was a very good amateur poet, and she was a keen observer of life and people, which helps when you are a songwriter. She was always very interested in my song lyrics, and would often read my lyrics carefully and make thoughtful  suggestions.

My wife Anne often does that too. I think having people who are close to you giving you honest feedback is key, and I think that’s why I’ve always worked on my lyrics so devotedly.

When and why did you become interested in music / bluegrass music?

Music was constantly being played on record players in our house when I was growing up. Although it was a large family, and we all sang in school and church choirs, I ended up being the only real musician in the end. But everyone in that big old house loved listening to music, and so there was always music on: all sorts of music; everything from show tunes and opera to folk music and African drum records. Not to mention all the great popular music of the 1960s.

As far as hearing bluegrass specifically, I probably first heard it on the Beverly Hillbillies TV show, when I was quite young. I do remember being entranced with the banjo. My father had some records with banjo on them, and I was fascinated with the sound. My oldest brother also had some bluegrass records, which I think I borrowed as a little kid.

It didn’t take me long to get hooked. In my early teen years I became obsessed with the older music of the Stanley Brothers, Bill Monroe, Flatt & Scruggs and Jimmy Martin, and when I started getting to know Dave Staats (my first bluegrass mentor) he lent me all kinds of records and I would tape them and listen to the cassettes over and over.

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Songwriter Profile – Becky Buller

This post is part of our occasional feature, Songwriter Profiles. If you have a suggestion for a bluegrass songwriter we might want to consider, please contact us.

Becky Buller was born in St. James, Minnesota. At the age of 10, she enrolled in some Suzuki method violin classes and began performing with her parents in a band called Prairie Grass. By the time she was 13, Ms. Buller had become a permanent member of Prairie Grass and began trying her luck on the fiddle contest circuit. Success quickly followed when in 1996, she won the Minnesota Junior Fiddling Championship. Her biggest fiddling influences are Kenny Baker, Curly Ray Cline, Stuart Duncan, Alison Krauss, Eddie Stubbs and Jason Carter.

While still in high school Ms. Buller began trying her hand at song writing and in 1996 she won first place in the Hank Williams Songwriting Contest held in Avoca, Iowa.

She was thrilled to be a part of the International Bluegrass Music Association’s (IBMA) Songwriter Showcase during their 1998 World of Bluegrass week in Louisville, Kentucky. In 2001, she was awarded the first-place prize in the bluegrass category of the prestigious Chris Austin Songwriting Contest at MerleFest in Wilksboro, North Carolina. Her songwriting heroes include Gillian Welch, Paul Simon, James Taylor, Darrell Scott and Patty Griffin.

As a student at East Tennessee State University (ETSU) in Johnson City, Tennessee, majoring in public relations, Ms. Buller was an active member of the Bluegrass and Country Music Program as well as performing with the ETSU Bluegrass Band and with Linda Lay and Appalachian Trail. She graduated in in May 2001.

In January of 2003 Ms. Buller was nominated for the Society for the Preservation of Bluegrass Music in America’s (SPBGMA) “Songwriter of the Year” award. Her songs have been covered by IIIrd Tyme Out; Valerie Smith & Liberty Pike; Doyle Lawson & Quicksilver; Rhonda Vincent & the Rage; David Parmley & Continental Divide; the Mark Newton Band; and Fragment, among others.

Since May of 2001 Ms Buller has toured all over the world with Valerie Smith & Liberty Pike. She has received individual billing.

Ms. Buller has two solo albums. The first is Rest My Weary Feet, which came out in 2000 on the SRS record label and is currently out of print. It features members of Appalachian Trail as well as Beth Lawrence, Darrell Webb, Mo Canada, Megan Gregory, Donica Christensen and others. Ms. Buller wrote 10 of the 12 songs on the album and three of those were covered by other artists; Rest My Weary Feet by IIIrd Tyme Out; Why Don’t You Just Say Good-bye by Kenny & Amanda Smith; and The Blind Beggar by Jeanette Williams.

Her second solo CD, Little Bird was released on Bell Buckle Records (BBR-015) in October 2004. Her collaboration with multi-Grammy winning producer/engineer Rich Adler of the renowned SoundWave Studios in Nashville, Tennessee, Little Bird is a labor of love almost two years in the making which pairs Ms. Buller with some of Nashville’s finest musicians, including Ron Block, Adam Steffey, Rob Ickes, Andrea Zonn, Carl Jackson and Wayne Benson. Ten of the thirteen tracks are written by Ms. Buller as well as a co-write each with Grammy winning producer Carl Jackson and Valerie Smith.

Through the years she has had many of her songs recorded by others. Among them are My Angeline and Rest My Weary Feet (by Russell Moore & IIIrd Tyme Out); Fishers of Men (Rhonda Vincent); How I Love You (The Chapmans); You Love Me Today (Josh Williams); Be Living (a #1 on Bluegrass Now magazine’s “Gospel Truths” chart for Doyle Lawson & Quicksilver); Why Do You Do What You Do, Why Don’t You Just Say Good-bye, Without A Trace (co-written with Justin Carbone) (Kenny & Amanda Smith Band); Charlie Lawson’s Still (co-written with Tommy Austin), Cabin in the Trees (the Mark Newton Band); Without Her In My Arms (David Parmley & Continental Divide); In Those Mines, Heaven Is Waiting, Jacob Spence (co-written w/Randall Conn), Engineer, The Rain, Gettin’ Ready For Sunday, My Jesus, Music to My Ears (co-written with Mark Simos & Lisa Aschmann (Valerie Smith & Liberty Pike); Carolina Rain (The Bankester Family); and Gone To Carolina (co-written with Justin Carbone), which featured on Signs album by Special Consensus and recently reached #4 on the Bluegrass Unlimited “National Survey Chart.”

The recent release, Here’s A Little Song, an excellent album of duets with Valerie Smith won a 2009 VOX POPULI award for Americana Album of the Year from the Musician’s Atlas “Independent Music Awards” as well as being awarded the 2009 “Best Bluegrass Album of the Year” title by the Rural Roots Music Commission, part of the National Traditional Country Music Association. Four more of Ms. Buller’s songs, Hand of Help, The River, The Ham Chorus and Heart of the House (co-written with Sarah Majors) can be found in this collection.

Following on from her success in the same category in 2006, Ms. Buller won the 2009 IBMA “Recorded Event of the Year” award for her participation on the recording of Proud to be a Daughter of Bluegrass.

On May 2, 2009, she got married to Jeff Haley. Becky and Jeff live in Manchester, Tennessee, with their ginger and cream cat “Curly Ray.”

Do you come from a musical family?

Yes. My parents were part of a bluegrass band called Prairie Grass that performed all over Minnesota and Iowa. Mom (Linda) played guitar and sang, Dad (Emory) played mandolin and sang. Another couple, Gordy and Roxie Schultz, sang and played banjo and bass with the band. While in high school, I played fiddle with the group. Although he never performed much with the band, my brother, Michael, is also very musical. He’s a great singer, guitar and, especially, bass player.

What was the first song that you wrote and what prompted it?

My first instrument was piano and I remember writing a tune that I played for Mrs. Monson’s music class in middle school. She gave me a “Magical Musical Moment Award” for it, which consisted of praise in front of the whole class and my choice of Tootsie Pop.

Who was the first bluegrass songwriter to make an impression on you and why?

Gillian Welch and David Rawlings. I absolutely fell in love with their song Wichita, as performed by Tim and Molly O’Brien, and Tear My Stillhouse Down, as performed by the Nashville Bluegrass Band. I didn’t make the connection between writer and songs until my violin teacher gave me a copy of Gillian and David’s record Revival as a high school graduation present. That album changed my life.

How many songs have you had recorded and which was the first to be recorded?

The first of my tunes to be recorded by a nationally touring act was Charlie Lawson’s Still, the title cut of a Rebel release for the Mark Newton Band. Since then, I’ve had 70 songs recorded by groups from across the United States and around the world (Germany, Austria, the Czech and Slovak Republics, etc.) It’s exciting! I’m honored and humbled that anyone would want to learn one of my songs, let alone record it!

What inspires you to write?

Anything and everything, stray comments from someone or a bit of something I’ve read, an experience I’ve had. The key is being in the right frame of mind to catch the song as it floats by, which can be harder to do depending on the season of life one is in. I’m continually searching for a new way to be in the right place to catch the tunes.

Which of your songs gives you most satisfaction and why?

Fishers of Men. Of all the songs I’ve been privileged to write, that one has reached the widest audience, thanks to Rhonda Vincent. I have had so many churches call to ask for permission to use the tune. Every time I go to church with my husband’s family, someone asks us to sing it.

The message of the song comes right out of Mark 1:16-18 “As Jesus walked beside the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen. ‘Come, follow me,’ said Jesus, ‘and I will make you fishers of men.’ At once they left their nets and followed him.”

It’s a very simple song, something that folks can easily join in on. I’m so very honored that folks are blessed by it.

What advice can you give to a young, inexperienced songwriter?

Write everything down and don’t throw anything away; you may come back to an idea ten years later. Keep them in a notebook or on little pieces of paper taped to your bathroom mirror where you see them every morning and can ruminate on them.

Write without fear of what others will think; write because you love to write.

I’ve found that the more specific or personal a song is, the more others see themselves in it. “The devil is in the details.”

Which comes first: the melody or the lyrics?

Usually, a bit of lyric will come to mind first, but a melody quickly follows.

What are the secrets to writing a successful bluegrass song?

I honestly don’t know why it is that some songs reach people and resonate with them while others don’t. There are songs I’ve written that I love and have tried to pitch around for years to no avail. Tom T. Hall once told me that a song will eventually find that person it’s meant for, all though it may take a while.

If somebody wants to write bluegrass (or any genre,) they need to consciously study the long and glorious tradition that has come before. Tear apart Pete Goble’s Blue Virginia Blues, for instance. What makes that song a classic?

If there is one ingredient that characterizes your songs what would that be?

Nostalgia.

What is the background to the story to Charlie Lawson’s Still?

My friend Tommy Austin, with whom I played in Appalachian Trail, told me this story on the way to band practice one night. “Charlie” kept a moonshine still in the empty cistern in his front yard of his Johnson City, Tenn., area home. Everybody knew he was making the stuff, but they could never catch him. He ran a stovepipe underground from the empty cistern to the house, where the family always used a woodstove, so no one questioned why there was always smoke coming from the chimney. He provided for a family of 10 boys this way, “all meaner ‘an snakes.”

The Blind Beggar sounds as though it might have an interesting story about it.

The Bible has so many amazing stories. Of course I believe it’s the Word of God, so that makes the stories even more powerful to me. I’ve always had a hard time memorizing Bible verses on their own, but I remember them if I can write a song around them. It’s a wonderful resource for songwriters; I usually carry one with me to writing sessions along with my computer, dictionary, rhyming dictionary and thesaurus. (I can get all those resources online, but there’s something about having the actual book in my hands that such a comfort.)

The Blind Beggar comes out of Luke 18:35-43. There are at least a couple different stories of Jesus giving sight to the blind. In this particular one, the man was blind from birth and spent most of his life in front the city gate begging. When he heard that Jesus was nearby, the blind man cries out to Jesus to have mercy on him. The folks nearby tried to hush him up, but the blind man persisted. Jesus commanded that the man be brought to him. “What do you want from me?” “I want to see!” “Receive your sight. Your faith has healed you.”

From that point on, the Bible says the blind man followed Jesus. I took the liberty of speculating that he followed Jesus all the way to his death at Calvary and even saw him after his resurrection, believing Jesus was the Son of God and the only way to eternal life.

Songwriter Profile – Louisa Branscomb

This post is part of our occasional feature, Songwriter Profiles. If you have a suggestion for a bluegrass songwriter we might want to consider, please contact us.

Louisa Branscomb is an acclaimed songwriter and pioneer in bluegrass music, having been referred to by Lance LeRoy, Lester Flatt’s manager, as “always 20 years ahead of her time.” A short list of her current accomplishments includes 4 songs on Dale Ann Bradley’s new release, Don’t Turn Your Back, including the title cut, having penned Alison Krauss’s breakout hit, Steel Rails, which still holds the honor of the longest running chart hit in bluegrass music, songs on Grammy’s by John Denver and Alison, approximately 85 songs recorded in bluegrass, and winning songs in songwriting contests that span decades. In addition, Louisa has a long career as a performer on guitar and banjo herself.

The International Bluegrass Music Awards have seen Louisa win honors on two recorded events of the year, including a project by Mark Newton celebrating women in bluegrass, and a song on the first Daughters of Bluegrass Recorded Event of the Year. Steel Rails, which received SPBGMA Song of the Year when released by Alison Krauss, is often credited with bringing a generation of young women into bluegrass music. At the present moment, her Dale Ann cut Don’t Turn Your Back is climbing bluegrass and roots charts, and Dale Ann’s CD by the same name is also climbing the charts, earning the #3 slot, so far, on Bluegrass Music Profiles.

Songwriting came early to Ms. Branscomb. Her parents recall her creating melodies on the piano at the age of four, and Louisa says that the first song she clearly remembers writing was at age six while at a Methodist summer camp in Alabama.

“It was a love song with one verse. Shows what I knew!”

At the age of 11 she won first place in the Alabama Student Music Composition Contest and performed with the Birmingham Symphony before an audience of 2000.

A country-music singing cousin in Texas gave Louisa her first guitar, a Martin 00-21.

“Ben was the real deal. He brought me into the real country music–Lefty Frizzell, Hank Snow, and Merle Haggard. From then on, folk and classical music took second place and bluegrass and country ruled.”

Sally Wingate, a banjo playing friend in college began playing with Louisa, and the two moved to Winston-Salem, where, at the age of 21, they co-founded the first, or one of the first modern all-female bluegrass bands, Bluegrass Liberation.

In 1972 Louisa became one of the first females to front a band, starting Boot Hill with Sam Sanger., making her one of the first females to front a band and play banjo in modern bluegrass. Ms. Branscomb’s pioneer spirit and song writing abilities continued to shape the landscape of bluegrass music throughout the decade as the band recorded three albums, and toured extensively until 1980.

A high-point in the Boot Hill’s time together was the success of their recording of Ms. Branscomb’s song Blue Ridge Memories, which, remarkably, became a chart hit in Japan in 1978. “Remarkably,” Louisa says, “because I sang it! and I am really just a baritone singer!!” Their gospel album also garnered the honor of second runner up for Gospel Album of the Year in bluegrass.

After the disbanding of Boot Hill, Ms. Branscomb played, briefly, with another all-female bluegrass band, Cherokee Rose, where she began her playing association with Missy Raines, Frances Mooney (Fontanna Sunset), and Mindy Rakestraw (Gary Waldrep Band). Louisa then moved to Atlanta, to pursue a doctoral degree. She relates that this was a difficult decision because she loved being on the road, but she felt it would allow her more freedom to be a songwriter and flexibility with her music.

Later she formed the band Gypsy Heart, with whom she recorded an all-original album. At this time, she was playing mandolin as well as banjo. In 1994, she recorded a solo CD enlisting the help of Randy Howard and Scott Vestal, It’s Time to Write a Song, an album that featured the broad spectrum of her material.

Subsequently, Louisa reunited with Frances Mooney and Mindy Rakestraw in the band Fontanna Sunset.

In November 2006 she was inducted into the Georgia Country Music Hall of Honor, taking a place with other notable musicians from Georgia.

Louisa now makes her home near Nashville, where she continues to pour herself into her songwriting. Though not in a formal band at this time, she is enjoying performing locally and regionally with friends including Pam Gadd, Becky Schlegel, and Jane Baxter (previously of Gary Waldrep Band).

Louisa claims cuts with Alison Krauss, John Denver, The New Coon Creek Girls, The McPeak Brothers, Janet McGarrah (Canada), Honeygrass (Canada),  Fontanna Sunset and Dale Ann Bradley.

Louisa relates that she hopes to go beyond her own songwriting to be a contributing part of the growing bluegrass songwriting community.  In 2005, she helped found the IBMA Bluegrass Songwriters Association, now named the Bluegrass Songwriter Committee, devoted to networking and educational opportunities for songwriters in IBMA.  During her career she has been a mentor to countless songwriters and young performers through songwriter workshops and retreats at her farm, Woodsong Farm.

Art Menius, in a Bluegrass Unlimited review, described Louisa Branscomb as “… a true pioneer for women in bluegrass.” Louisa’s songwriting roots reach deep into the past, and she shows no signs of stopping. Asked what her current plans are, Louisa said…

“Just keep going. I feel lucky to be a part of the best music community in the world. When someone has an interest in a song of mine, or I get to hear them sing it from their own heart and soul, that is always a highpoint of my life. I am also excited to see that Dale Ann’s CD and song, Don’t Turn Your Back are doing well. I am also planning another solo songwriter album with recent songs, which will be interesting since my writing is taking some new turns–becoming more about space around the words, and not just the words.  I just try to follow where it takes me and write as honestly as I can.”

Do you come from a musical family?

Yes. My Dad played stride piano (blues) and harmonica. He played all styles on the harp – Beethoven to blues! I grew up going hunting in South Alabama sitting around the campfire listening to Dad singing with his buddies. Mom played piano early on, and two grandparents sang amateur opera and American and British folk, and another Grandmother played guitar and sang old folk songs. My Dad would sit in anywhere we went where there was a live blues band and play boogie woogie, like if we went in some dive way down town on the seedy side of Birmingham, back in Steel Mill days, to get Bar-B-Que, because that’s where the best Bar-B-Que was. And there’d be an old piano in there; Dad would play it, or play harmonica with a blues player.

On Sundays, when the whole family was home, the record player alternated from Beethoven to Muddy Waters to the Smothers Brothers to flamenco to African-American blues. The other influence was Methodist Hymns. My first church memories are of West End Methodist, in Nashville. My family also sang in the car on trips, and sang the Doxology before meals. Another major influence was my cousin, Ben, from Austin. He taught me about soul. He played guitar and sang the real old country — Hank Snow, Jimmy Rogers; the old yodel songs. He saw I was playing this classical styled Mexican guitar and he said, “You can’t play country on that thing!” and bought me my first Martin, a 00-28.

What prompted you to write songs in the first place and which was the first song that you wrote?

I can’t remember what it’s like to not write… anything but being so excited about how to choose the words and figure out how to put them together to get a feeling inside you out in a poem or song; I do not know what it is like to not have that. I think it is the form of expression closest to my soul, more than conversation or playing music. Talking is harder.

I started writing poems about age five and my first song when I was six or seven. When I was a kid I was shy; I’d stay in at recess at school and write stories or poems or songs. I told the teacher my parents wanted me to work on my writing. Actually, I wanted to do that more than play dodgeball.

First song…..Do I have to answer this??? OK…. I was about six. It was called The Highest Mountain. Here’s the chorus: “I’d climb the highest mountain/ if I knew that when I climbed that mountain/ I’d find you.” Wrote it with ukulele — a girl in my cabin at camp had one and she’d gone canoeing. I “borrowed it” while she was out of the cabin. I was hooked. Wrote it with stair steps for the melody because I didn’t know notation. Went home and asked for a ukulele, and that was my first stringed instrument.

In terms of the lyrics, I don’t think I was in love. Except with a horse I rode called Shady Lady and I know it wasn’t about her! So I guess I was already learning to “channel,” to put myself in someone else’s shoes as a six or seven year old.

Who was the first bluegrass songwriter to make an impression on you and why?

Well I had been writing for many years when I first began playing bluegrass at 19, so I had listened to many singer-songwriters — Mickey Newbury, Leonard Cohen, Hank Snow, Kristofferson, Lefty Frizzell, Merle Haggard, Gail Davies, Bob Dylan, Willie Nelson, Hank Williams, Jimmy Rogers, Bill Anderson, Tom T Hall… Then in bluegrass early on, this was 1971… I didn’t really know about bluegrass writers — except the first generation, the founders. I was just doing my own thing. The exception was that after a while (after I’d written Steel Rails and really quite a few songs) I met Randall Hylton and Paul Craft, the first people I knew in terms of dedicated songwriters. Later, I became aware of others. This was the 1970s and early on I didn’t know many people who thought of themselves primarily as songwriters. But I didn’t pay much attention because my bands (Boot Hill, later Cherokee Rose, then Gypsy Heart) were very busy on the road and/or playing a lot of gigs, and I was writing a whole lot. So I can’t say I was influenced by anyone that I’m aware of.

I loved traditional bluegrass, but our group did about half original songs on each album, then I have done five albums with all original material. My first band, Boot Hill, came along around the time of the second generation in bluegrass, and we were all bringing in new material. That was the time of innovative bands like Country Gazette, Seldom Scene, Newgrass Revival, Boone Creek, to name a few. I remember meeting Claire Lynch, also from Alabama, whose band came along around that time and being amazed at her writing. Very exciting era to be a part of the new style of music coming in and there was this incredible exhilaration about the new songs coming into bluegrass (and lots of arguing about what bluegrass “really” is! Some things never change!)

Then I remember being 28 and feeling like I’d had this chance to move to Nashville as a writer when I was 21, and it was “too late!” (if I knew then what I know now…). And Raymond McLain ( Sr.) said, “No, you are just the right age!” and that gave me confidence to keep stepping out there as a new writer. Then I realized writing is ageless. I think we should get braver as we go on writing because we have less to lose as we get older. And we also start to realize we have less to say.

I rarely listen much to writers, or much music of any kind. Occasionally, I am struck by a particular song and listen to that song a lot. Late in the Day, by Tim O’Brien, is an example. But I enjoy a variety of different writers, such as Shawn Colvin, Lucinda Williams, and a lot of alt-acoustic music. The Indigo Girls are drop dead talented lyricists and I knew them personally early on and played a little with them, when they were beginning to write really deep, spiritually-inspired stuff with a real emotional edge to it. Nashville is full of incredible writers. I listen more for the song than the writer.

Recently my approach has totally changed. I’ve turned writing inside out, writing silences. It is about architecture. Setting up the silences and building words, as few as possible, to support the silences. So the song is actually about the silences; where the words aren’t. I think this makes the words more powerful, if I can choose them right. In the same way as if you have a building with a few lines or borders framing a space, it is the window that is the beauty — the window gives you the freedom. People hear through silences as they see through windows — it is a space where the listener can bring their own image or feeling or memory. Playing an instrument is the same way. The notes are defined by silence, and the placement of the note in that space. The way that is done is what gives that note or that phrase it’s emotion or power. In the clutter of other notes, it’s just a note. Sometimes you want more notes or words, but not without contrast to having less of them around the corner.

You wrote Steel Rails the song with which Alison Krauss had so much success early in her career. How did the song come about and how did you manage to get it cut by Alison?

By staying out of the way of fate! Meaning, I didn’t have a whole lot to do with it! Wrote it at about age 21; it was a song written out of a feeling… letting time carry you forward, and an image — the tracks going round the bend. Alison heard it on my first album with Boot Hill. I didn’t know she’d done it.

I’d heard her at a the Station Inn when she was little – 10 or so – but not in a long time, and I walked into the Station Inn one night in 1991 on the way from Nashville to Atlanta, and was transported by Union Station, totally, who isn’t? I was awestruck. But I made myself speak to Alison Brown because I had a TB 6 like hers.

Then she said, “You’re Louisa Branscomb? We’ve been trying to find you for two years!” I was SO confused. Like I went from complete humility to confusion, then Alison Krauss said, “Did you like your song?” I hadn’t heard them do it, so I was still confused. I was hoping someone would tell me what was going on. Then they came back out and did the song and that was a moment I will never forget.

So I wrote Alison about 11 more songs between the Station and Atlanta that night. None of which she recorded! Actually, she said, write us another one like Steel Rails. So I did. Called Old Familiar Song. It’s a highway song, same feeling. Better structure, really. She listened to it and said, “Nah, that’s just like Steel Rails!!!” and I said, “I thought that was the point!”

Alison has always been so very generous with her support to songwriters and songs become magic when she touches them. But that is how it is to me with anyone who does a song of mine. It is the most meaningful thing to me as an artist — to hear a singer interpret a song with their feeling and phrasing; the words through another’s soul.

Thinking of Steel Rails it’s full circle in a way, because one of my latest cuts, Dale Ann (Bradley)’s title track on her new CD is a train song too. There is something symmetrical about Alison doing Steel Rails in 1991 and Dale Ann doing Don’t Turn Your Back now in 2009, just as I’ve moved to Nashville for the first time since I lived here age four to six. And also since Allison Brown was involved in both of them. She played on Steel Rails, the original cut (guitar) and she played banjo on Don’t Turn Your Back (and produced it).

Dale Ann Bradley said the other day, “Louisa, you’re the best friend a train ever had.” I hadn’t realized until she said that that I really have written a lot of train songs, probably because I grew up riding the L&N from Birmingham to Union Station (Nashville) to visit my grandparents.

Mom bought the cheap tickets on the train that went all night long and stopped at every fence post, and we’d lie on those red Naugahyde bench seats and I’d look out at the stars all night in those big old train windows, and imagine things — stories, songs, poems, all to the rhythm of the rails. I was always making up stories told in the voice of people I’d never met. I’d have my Harmony (Sears) guitar next to me on the floor in a cardboard case. It was eerie and enchanting to wake up in the middle of the night with the train broke down somewhere like Anniston or out in a field… completely quiet. Moon shining on the fields. Once a cow came up to my window.

Trains took me into the world of magic. And to my Grandmother and Grandfather, and Nashville.

Was Steel Rails the first song that you had recorded?

No. When I was about 21, in the days of Big Hair, Nashville, I went to Nashville at Mel Tillis’s request because he’d heard Steel Rails on a cassette. He met me at eight in the morning at Sawgrass, and I played him around 45 tunes of the 250 I’d written by then, one after another and he’d write down the ones he wanted to publish. I wanted to meet at nine and he wanted to meet at seven so we compromised. He demo’d five that day and he recorded Steel Rails but did not release it, and also pitched it to Johnny Cash.

He said I should move to Nashville. I was very intimidated by big hair — all the women had that 1970’s bouffant kind of hair style. I had long straight hair and was a hippie. I could not stand hair spray – not to mention I was painfully shy. So it took me about thirty more years to get back. Now I’m back and it’s OK because people have straight hair now.

About that same time, my band, Boot Hill (I was playing banjo then and writing for the band) recorded our first album and it had five or six originals of mine including Steel Rails (about 1973). We did it live with one mic, produced by Scotty Moore. In addition, the McPeak Brothers recorded it before Alison, and I believe so did Indian Summer, a Georgia band led by Frances Munde Mooney.

So by the time Alison recorded Steel Rails I had had four albums that were half to all original songs, plus a handful recorded by others.

Blue Ridge Memories, one of your songs that you recorded with Boot Hill, became a ‘hit’ song in Japan. How did that happen?

I guess they weren’t used to real vocalists! It wasn’t a huge sensation or anything, but was on a decent place on the charts. Japan was a great market for bluegrass, even back then, and for some reason that song did well there, maybe because of all the mountain images in the song–close to the heart of bluegrass.

Your song Fool’s Gold was on the Daughters Of Bluegrass album Back To The Well; how did that come about?

I have had many songs recorded by the wonderful Georgia band, Fontanna Sunset, led by Frances Mooney –probably seven or eight at least and they have easily performed 15 or more. I owe them a great debt of gratitude. I played banjo and also guitar with Fontanna Sunset during part of their history, as well.

Frances recorded Fool’s Gold, both for Fontanna Sunset, and sang it on my CD, Fool’s Gold. When she had the opportunity to choose one for that project, she chose Fool’s Gold.  Frances goes way back with my songs, since she sang Steel Rails back in the 1970s, years before I knew her. Then we did originals of mine in a band we were both in called Cherokee Rose in around 1979-80.

You have four songs on Dale Ann Bradley’s most recent album. How did those songs come to be written after a seemingly long spell without inspiration?

Shoot, and I thought I’d been writing some good tunes, Richard!

No, all seriousness aside, I’ve never stopped. I have 10 songs recorded in the last year. I had about 90 songs recorded in bluegrass in the last 25 years or so. John Denver recorded Steel Rails, on his last CD, which got a Grammy posthumously. Dale Ann had recorded Stormy Night years before; my bands have done quite a few; then there are the McPeak Brothers, Ladies’ Choice, Fontanna Sunset, Broadriver, Janet McGarry has done several, Honeygrass, Fontanna Sunset, Valerie Smith did one in her stage show that she would release in a live CD, and others. I also did a whole album of children’s music, which got a Parenting Award back in 1992, and a spiritual album designed to capture the spiritual life journey, which was marketed to therapists and child services agencies regionally. Typically, I write about three to six songs a month, sometimes more.

Those on Dale Ann’s project — the title track was inspired by Dale Ann herself. I didn’t tell her that, though, when I played her the song. Then she said, “You just wrote my life!” and that she was going to build the album around that song. So the CD is about the theme of courage, hanging in, facing things. I think it is so cool she did a CD with a theme like that, because that is different and kinda daring. But so is she!

She also loved Will I Be Good Enough, and that resonated for me to give her because she values her role as a mother so much and worked so hard as a musician to be a good mother at the same time, while on the road; I knew that was hard for her but she has a wonderful and talented son who is now a young man. Once in 2001 I interviewed her about being a musician and Mom while on the bus going to perform in D.C. when we were both part of Mark Newton’s CD that was Recorded Event of the Year, dedicated to women in bluegrass. I remembered what she’d said about the pain of leaving her son every time she went out on the road. It is also about my own daughter.

The other two — Ghostbound Train I’d written and she and I put the melody together. Music City Queen — she’d come up with the concept and a good bit of the lyrics, and the kick off riff. We finished the lyrics and flushed out the tune and arrangement. It was a pleasure to be brought in on a song so beautiful and poignant. And some of the lines came straight out of my childhood in Nashville… “the corner of Broadway and tomorrow” to name one.

Writing with Dale Ann flows very easily; I think we think alike with the music and the messages. I hand her a guitar and show her the song, maybe a tentative melody, and she has this amazing melody first out. She’s in tune with a universe of music somehow.

I had a song recently, called I’ll Take Love, about love being the only thing you take with you when you go. She put this magic touch on it that was 1970’s rock and backwoods Kentucky all at once. She is deeply gifted in every aspect of music and to hear her interpret a line is an amazing experience. And with singing Don’t Turn Your Back, like all her songs, she sings her heart out and every time she comes up with a new and powerful way to bend notes or add inflections on some word that she decides to sing the heck out of. She doesn’t think about it.

I was in the studio when she was recording them. If you say, “that was awesome, do that again…” she’d go, “Huh?? What did I do?” So may as well just forget it, she’s so in her heart, and by then she’s on to some other great musical idea anyway!

What inspires you to write?

Anything that touches me. Beauty, or something that means something to someone. Broken bicycle, scared child, leaning mailbox. A board fallen off a barn. Anything with a little bit of soul attached to it, which if you look closely, most things do. When I am moved by an experience of someone’s true emotion, whether sadness, or joy, or sacrifice or courage.

I write a lot about our veterans because they have learned about life stripped down to the essence and we can learn from them. I write about survivors of war, crime, Katrina, one about a black steel worker who tried to befriend a white co-worker in the 1950s, even taught his son to play the his music — the blues, but it was 1950s and he was fired for it. This gift — teaching his friend’s son to play his music despite the risk and cost — that was love.

There is beauty in the force of nature that destroys, and the contrast between that and the good that it brings out in people. Or sacrifice such as when a mother puts her a child first when she can barely go on. I am drawn to images and feelings — trying to capture a moment as bare and honest as possible — more than stories. I am drawn to things that have endured some history. I love old farmhouses and faded quilts. I love the Blue Ridge Mountains, and wrote a lot about the mountains early on, but I write more about relationship things now.

Which song that you have written gives you the most satisfaction and why?

Now that is a little like saying which old flame gave you the most satisfaction and why! But I did enjoy thinking about that! Do I have to change the subject now?

OK. Songs are like lovers or children – they all have a little piece of your soul, and all different. Steel Rails is still a curious thing to me, because after Alison did it, I would go to festivals and it was like overnight the world had dumped hundreds of little girls into bluegrass gatherings, singing Steel Rails and trying to be Alison Krauss. I would just listen. Sometimes if I sang it they’d tell me I was doing it wrong! It is still happening; went to Alabama a few weeks ago and an eight year old and her sister had just recorded Steel Rails. It is amazing every time I hear it but I’m still trying to figure out how songs take on a life of their own.

Don’t Turn Your Back feels very similar to Steel Rails in a way I can’t describe. It harks back to those long nights on the L&N, the magic of putting a penny on the track, the feeling that a train keeps you moving forward when you think you can’t move on your own. The idea that love is still there, waiting to be discovered. I have to see what the listeners say. But I can tell you that only a few songs I’ve written I’ve felt immediately they do “something” to me right out of the gate, by the second measure, like, they just “are,” and you “get them.” Steel Rails and Don’t Turn Your Back both felt like that writing them. Like somehow you “know” the song at a gut level within the first few notes and it settles in really quickly.

I have some new songs that are very different, where the idea is very stripped down and the silences are the main shape of the song. I’m demo-ing those right now. Where I am going farther out on a limb with the lyrics, the ideas, the melody, everything. Some have more flesh and blood and mysticism, all at once. I am never satisfied with my work. I keep moving. My grandmother said my favorite song was “Davy, Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Fun Tear”. She said it was “frontier.” I said no, it’s a song about fun and tears. She gave up.

I am drawn to frontiers. She said I liked to go to the edge even when I was learning to crawl. And she took me to the Ryman, and we were on the front row, and I remember looking up at Bill Monroe, and he seemed so tall. I mean, especially tall. And I am co-writing a lot for the first time and that is really making me grow a lot too.

In 2006 you told Marie Nesmith of the Cartersville Daily Tribune, “I have reached a point in my career where I still love to perform, but my emphasis has shifted to promoting song writing and giving back to the profession, mentoring others.” As part of that, you were one of those involved in starting the Bluegrass Songwriter Association, which is now the Songwriter Committee of IBMA.

What are the objectives of the Songwriter Committee?

We wanted to bring a sense of community to songwriters, since song writing is a solitary art for the most part, and share our work with each other, which is inspiring, and assist other IBMA groups with educational opportunities for songwriters. This has been a really fun project and has resulted in an increased sense of community among songwriters, new and seasoned. It’s been a lot of fun. As part of that we have a mentor program headed up by Tony Rackley, as well as assisting with various IBMA events.

What advice would you give to someone wanting to become a songwriter?

You are one.

Write down a sentence about something that matters. Then whittle it down to four to six strong words.

Or think of a feeling, like missing childhood, then think of an image that captures it. Like, “rusty barb-wire buried in a tree. Empty pasture, gone to weeds.” I mean, don’t censure. Just write. OK maybe I’ll use that line!

If there is one ingredient that characterizes your songs what would that be?

I should probably leave that to others! I just know that my ongoing goal is to write with more and more purity and courage. Fewer words, closer to the bone.

I would like to write some things that might need to be said that people are afraid to say, like I recently wrote a song about the effect of divorce on children, and one about a mother and child escaping in the night from an abusive father. Another one about moments when loving someone is just real damn hard.

I would like for love to come through, whether it is toward a train car (“that L& N is somewhere rusting/no silver rails to be my guide”*) or a combat veteran (“in his mind he’s in Iraq/ he just wants his best friend back/ he wishes it were him instead/ keeps hearing those last words he said” ** ), or about someone (“God put some extra blue in your eyes/ a down payment for the love you carry everywhere.” ***) But what’s really important is what listeners and the artists say.

Like once I had a song I thought was pretty good, and played it for Valerie Smith. It had a line with the word “cow” in it. She kept going, “cooooo-w, coo–ooow…” trying to say it all these different ways and finally said, “Louisa, I just can’t sing the word cow and make it sound good! Maybe somebody with a more delicate voice, like Alison!”

So I rewrote that line! Because I got it that most singers probably didn’t want to sing “coooowwww”. So I try to listen to the artists and anybody who will listen to the song.

It is wonderful now that I’ve moved to back to the Nashville area , because there are songwriters around, and that is also an amazing way to get feedback. But I just want to know what people hear in my songs, what touches them, and try to understand when that one occasional line or song takes on a life of its own. And learn from that.

The only thing I can think of that takes on a life of its own and keeps on touching others besides love is music and songs. It’s really a miracle every time, no matter how far a song goes. How could anyone want to do anything else?

* Grandma and Highway 65, by Louisa Branscomb © Millwheel Music 2008
** Surrender, by Louisa Branscomb and Dale Ann Bradley, © Millwheel Music 2007
*** Extra Blue, by Louisa Branscomb © Millwheel Music

Songwriter Profile – Chris Stuart

This post is part of our occasional feature, Songwriter Profiles. If you have a suggestion for a bluegrass songwriter we might want to consider, please contact us.

Originally from Jacksonville, Florida, Chris Stuart plays guitar and leads his own band, Backcountry, based in Del Mar, California. His first professional involvement in bluegrass was as a banjo player in the band Salt Run in St. Augustine, Florida, in 1984, and then, after moving to upstate New York, as the banjo and mandolin player in the group Cornerstone, founded in 1991 by Stuart, Pam Daley, Rick Manning and Dana Paul, in Ithaca, New York. The band won the Winterhawk (now Grey Fox) band contest that year and then showcased at the IBMA Convention in 1992.

From an early age, Stuart wrote poetry and stories. He remembers writing a fable when he was ten, and he wrote poetry in high school. Both his parents wrote poetry and listened to a wide range of music. His father was a Disciples of Christ minister and his mother a sixth-grade school teacher. There were always books and music in the house. Everyone in the family liked a different kind of music, so they listened to everything from Hank Williams to Cleo Laine.

It was during his time with Cornerstone that Stuart began writing songs, inspired by the voice of Ms Daley, the lead singer with the band. His first song was Paul And Peter Walked, which Claire Lynch heard and recorded on her gospel album. She also recorded another Chris Stuart song God Spoke His Name, and a Cajun song, Thibodeau, on her next album.

Stuart’s talent as a songwriter was further evident as he won the Chris Austin Songwriting contest at the 1993 Merlefest in both bluegrass‚Äìwith Maggie’s Daughter‚Äìand gospel‚Äìwith God Spoke His Name‚Äìcategories. Both songs are on Cornerstone’s first CD Maggie’s Daughter, along with three other Stuart-penned songs.

Other Chris Stuart songs to find favor with bluegrass singers are Dear Friends and Gentle Hearts, on the Suzanne Thomas album of the same name; Saro, on Sally Jones’ Love Hurts CD; Dale Ann Bradley recorded Julia Belle on her Catch Tomorrow album; and Larry Cordle recorded a Chris Stuart song, The First Train Robbery for his recent album, Took Down and Put Up. Also, Danny Paisley recorded Don’t Throw Mama’s Flowers Away, on his The Room Over Mine album (The song is on the final ballot for IBMA Song of the Year); Michael Cleveland recorded Farewell for a Little While on his Leavin’ Town CD; Bobby Osborne recorded Stuart’s Civil War ballad Shenandoah Wind, and Doyle Lawson recorded a Chris Stuart gospel song, When the Last of Our Days Shall Come, which is on the final ballot for IBMA Gospel Recording of the Year.

In 1996 he moved to California, where, in 2002, with Janet Beazley, he started Backcountry, a band that they put together to promote their first album, Angels of Mineral Springs. Stuart says,

“I’m really lucky to have someone like Janet Beazley to work with. I’ve co-written a couple of songs with her, including “Jealous Crow”, but also she’s able to respond to my songs and suggest melodic and alternate ways of doing things, and also she’s a genius at arrangement and recording, so she’s not only an inspiration, she’s essential to my writing.”

As well as being a great songwriter, Stuart is a writer of high-quality articles about his bluegrass peers. His stories about Russell Moore & IIIrd Tyme Out, Ralph Stanley, Del McCoury, The Circuit Riders, The Grascals, Cadillac Sky and Blue Highway, among others, have been featured in Bluegrass Unlimited in recent months. He was the IBMA’s Print Media Person for 2008, and he makes a living as a copy editor for several comic book publishers in San Diego. He recently worked on the Transformers, GI Joe, and Joss Whedon’s Angel series. He also works part-time as an editor in the Biology department at the University of California, San Diego.

How many songs have you written and out of those, how many have been recorded?

I haven’t counted, but I’ve probably written well over 100 and about 50 have been recorded by our band or others.

Who has influenced your songwriting most?

Stephen Foster, Carter Stanley, Townes Van Zandt, Jesse Winchester, Bill Monroe, Paul Simon, Tom and Dixie Hall, Lester Flatt, Jimmy Webb, Joni Mitchell, John Prine, Larry Cordle, Carl Jackson, Pete Goble, and on and on. I think Larry Sparks’s John Deere Tractor was the first bluegrass album where I thought, okay, that’s amazing songwriting. There’s a lot of great songs by different songwriters on that album. I believe it took bluegrass songwriting to a new level and it really inspired me. Still does. I think it’s the bluegrass White Album.

Most of your songs have been recorded by your own group; who else has recorded songs by you? Were these pitched to or commissioned by others?

I’ve been lucky enough to have had my songs recorded by Claire Lynch, Dale Ann Bradley, Larry Cordle, Dan Paisley, Michael Cleveland, Bobby Osborne, Doyle Lawson, Sally Jones, Suzanne Thomas, Janet Beazley, Eric Uglum, and others; and have a song coming out in the next few months recorded by an Irish group, Cherish the Ladies.

One of my most recorded songs has been Twenty Naked Pentecostals in a Pontiac, based on a true story, which I wrote as a challenge from someone on bgrass-L [the bluegrass listserv run by Frank Godbey at the University of Kentucky]. I’ve never had a song commissioned‚Äìthat would be a daunting project to have someone give me specs for a song, although it would be interesting to try.

All the cuts I’ve gotten were due to some odd bit of serendipity where the artist heard the song done by our band or someone else, or I handed them a CD at a festival we were playing. As soon as I hand someone a demo, I forget about it because it’s such a long-shot to get a song cut. I just assume no one would be interested, so I’m always surprised and happy to hear that someone wants to cut one of my songs. I seldom actively pitch songs, though.

What advice can you give if someone wanted to write a song for a hard-core traditional bluegrass band, as opposed to a contemporary group?

If you’re trying to write a traditional bluegrass song, you still need to make it sound fresh. That’s the challenge, to make it feel like it was written fifty years ago, but also like it’s something you haven’t heard before. To me, the hardest song to write is an up-tempo bluegrass song, just for that reason. My advice is to listen to how Monroe and others did it and pick out things you like and build on that. Not enough songwriters really listen to the first generation. Listen to those old songs until you just have to write one of your own.

You have won prizes for your songwriting; tell me about them ….

I won the Chris Austin songwriting contest at Merlefest in 1993 in both the bluegrass and gospel categories. And I was nominated by SPBGMA as Songwriter of the Year in 2006. To me, though, the greatest award a songwriter can get is when you hear a song of yours played by a group jamming around a campfire at a festival when they don’t know you wrote the song.

How did Dale Ann Bradley pick up Julia Belle?

Janet Beazley recorded it on her album 5 South, and Dale Ann heard us do it, I think, at IBMA one year. It was quite an honor to have her record it. She is an amazing singer, a wonderful person, and a great songwriter. She’s also one of the best rhythm guitar players out there, something she doesn’t get enough credit for.

Which songs have you had on The Bluegrass Unlimited National Bluegrass Survey and what was the peak position for each? Were they your own recordings or by others?

I can’t recall, but I think it’s up to eight or nine now. Our band song Crooked Man, the title cut of our new album, is at #8 for July [#6 in August]. Danny Paisley’s version of Don’t Throw Mama’s Flowers Away, which I co-wrote with Ivan Rosenberg [former resonator guitar player in Backcountry] was at #7 for January 2009. I think Claire’s version of Paul and Peter Walked got to #4 a few years ago.

I really try not to remember these things‚Äìit takes time away from actually writing new songs. I heard someone say that for an artist there is no past, just the blank slate of the future and I really believe that. Once I finish a song, I’m always terrified that I won’t have another one in me.

You have worked at several songwriting workshops; tell me a bit about them.

I’ve taught short songwriting workshops at festivals, but also week-long workshops at Sorrento, in British Columbia, and at Sorefingers in the UK. At Sorefingers, I think I started to find a way to get people to actually begin writing‚Äìwhich is the point of it all‚Äìby having them come up with scenarios that suggest a song. There is no tablature, though, to songwriting. It’s a creative process where you have to respect the muse and play by her rules. It can be daunting, but it’s worth it when you discover a song that you didn’t know existed before.

People ask which comes first, the words or the music, and I have to answer, “yes.” Sometimes it’s one, sometimes the other, or both at the same time. The main thing is to work at it and listen to that voice in your head that tells you when something is not quite right. It’s work, but there’s no greater feeling than when you get just the right words with just the right melody.

Do you look for literal usage of language or for metaphors? Where does each fit in the scheme of things?

I look for detail that is meaningful, but primarily detail that brings the listener into the song. If you’re too generic in a song, then the listener loses interest. On the other hand, if it’s so specific that it doesn’t have anything to do with them, then you lose them that way too. It’s a fine line, but I think it’s better to have literal images in a song that then emotionally move the listener.

Sensual imagery‚Äìsight, smell, taste, touch, sound‚Äìis the best way into a song. But I try to teach that we’re really looking for diamonds in the gutter. It’s that narrow space between heaven and earth where we want to find our songs. One of my songs, Angels of Mineral Springs is really about that space that makes us human, where the divine is in the mundane. I want people to react to my songs emotionally more than intellectually, but a well-crafted song does both. And I’ll study those successful songs that do that.

To what extent do personal experiences help in songwriting?

A lot. But, I also teach that we’re given imaginations in order to try to walk in other’s shoes. It’s good to “write about what you know” as people always say. But it’s also possible to write about something you ‚Ä®know very little about and still come up with a good song. I just wrote a song about the first train robbery in the US. Now, I’ve never robbed a train, but I can put myself into the shoes of that train robber and imagine what it was like in 1867. I think people are sometimes scared off from writing about something outside their own experience. I encourage people to do that, because it gets you away from the “poor me” syndrome in songwriting where all your songs are about your inability to stay in love or get a hit song in Nashville. I’ve heard way too many of those. I tend to like story songs for the reason that it gets you outside yourself. The only rule in songwriting is that there are no rules.

At what point do meter and phrasing come into the process?

From the very beginning. I think rhythm and phrasing are essential in determining early whether a song should be a ballad or an up-tempo song. In the workshop, we’ll take short phrases of words and put melodies to them to try to find the “perfect” melody for any kind of phrase. One of my exercises is to walk around the area and find signs and put music to those words.

Footnote: Sorefingers is a week-long gathering of bluegrass artists in the Cotswolds in the UK–a series of classes where students can learn from a wide range of experts in their respective fields.

Songwriter Profile – Mark 'Brink' Brinkman

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Mark Brinkman has been around music all his life. He grew up in Wisconsin playing classical piano at the age of four. Like so many kids of the 1960s he was heavily influenced by the folk and rock groups of the era. He took up guitar and played everything from Kingston Trio stuff to Doobie Brothers to Jethro Tull. Brink could never have prepared for the change his life would take in 1974 when he attended Bill Monroe’s Bluegrass Festival at Bean Blossom Indiana. It was there he heard groups such at Bill Monroe & the Blue Grass Boys, Lester Flatt & the Nashville Grass, Jimmy Martin among others. It was a life changing experience that continues to influence him today as he continues to write bluegrass, Americana, country and Acoustic songs.

About the same time “Brink,” as all his friends call him, began writing songs, folks songs for acoustic guitar mainly. He performed these songs at many local clubs around Madison, Wisconsin, while attending college there. Over the following  25 and more years he has continued to write music and perform around the country.

He spent a few fruitless years in Nashville, going from publisher to publisher, trying to get his songs published. Discouraged, he gave up song writing for about 10 years.

Bluestone Mountain was the first Brinkman song to be recorded, cut by Don Rigsby and released on his acclaimed Empty Old Mailbox album, released in 2000. Rigsby’s version of this haunting song was awarded the West Virginia Governor’s Award.

Since then Brinkman has not looked back. Going from strength to strength, his songs have been widely recorded. A sample of those that he had had recorded includes She’s a Stranger In His Mind, a song about Alzheimer’s disease recorded by Carrie Hassler & Hard Rain;  I Can’t Bear the Thought of Losing You recorded by The Larry Stephenson Band; Prisoner of the Highway, by Don Rigsby & Midnight Call; The Legend of Jonas Willingham recorded by the Lonesome River Band; Alone In The Still Of The Night by Valerie Smith; The Ghost of Silas Jordan, Can’t Be Anything But Love and  Hobo’s Lament all by The Boohers; The Old Coal Mine recorded by Larry Sparks; Before Your First Tear Hits the Ground and Tennessee Backroads by Lou Reid & Carolina; When You’re Looking Up by Lorraine Jordan & Carolina Road; and Devil’s Road recorded by Grasstowne.

Brinkman has been a Merlefest Chris Austin Songwriting Contest finalist five times and his song Beyond the Rain was nominated and voted Best Bluegrass Gospel Song at the 2007 National Gospel Quartet Convention in Louisville, Kentucky.

He has his own publishing company, Brinksongs, online at www.brinksongs.com.

Brinkman says, “Writing music is like breathing, something I just have to do to live. I can’t see ever getting away from the process of creating music from a blank page.”

Were you born into a musical family?

We always had music in the house growing up in Wisconsin. Of course there wasn’t any bluegrass but my Grandfather played “big band” music and even did a short tour with Tommy Dorsey. My Mother sang soprano and played violin in a symphony orchestra. Everyone seemed to sing and hours were spent evenings singing and playing music.

When did you take an interest in music and what were the circumstances?

I started piano lessons at age 4 and continued classical training on piano for the next 17 years. During the mid 60’s I started playing guitar and singing folk music. People like The Kingston Trio, Chad Mitchell Trio, Peter Paul & Mary, etc influenced my singing and playing and it was then I started to take an interest in writing my own  music. I spent the early 70’s working in Glacier National Park and my roommate was from Ashville, NC and he played bluegrass and knew Doc Watson tunes note for note. I was hooked. I then went to Bean Blossom and heard Lester Flatt, Jimmy Martin, Bill Monroe and I was hooked!!  There is no cure for this disease!

When did you take an interest in songwriting and what were the circumstances?

In High School I started writing songs. In the 70’s I started writing country songs and my first years in song writing were spent trying to write “commercial” country songs. I realize now that I wasn’t being true to my own heart and was writing what everyone else “thought” I should write and not writing what was in me deep down. Because of that the songs just always seemed to lack “something.” I go back and listen to those old songs and many times cringe as I compromised my writing. About 7 years ago I stepped down from a corporate mid-management position to concentrate heavily on my song writing. Finally, to follow my passion and my dreams of getting a song or two recorded by an artist or band. I made a business plan and committed to following through with my song writing.

Which songwriters did you first become aware of and what were the circumstances?

My first real big time influences were from the 70’s. People like Steve Goodman, John Prine, Dan Fogelburg, Jim Croce. As I was mostly a solo performer it fit me to a T. I ended up opening shows for many of my heroes and actually got to talk to them about music and song writing. Later on as I got into bluegrass I got into writers like Pete Goble, Jake Landers, Bill Monroe, and then later on Carl Jackson, Larry Cordle, Jerry Salley, Harley Allen. I feel very fortunate to have become friends with many of my song writing heroes and they push me to try set the bar higher and higher for my writing. I’ve been fortunate to have some wonderful co-writers as well. Folks like Louisa Branscomb, Mike Evans, Tony Rackley, Dave Maggard, Bill Castle.

Which songwriters have influenced you and in what ways?

I writing with imagery and writing songs that really “touch” your heart. Make you laugh‚Ķmake you cry. People like Jerry Salley, Carl Jackson, Harley Allen, Tom T. and Dixie Hall, all influence me all the time. They push me to continue to write from the heart and not compromise my songs. I try to write the best song I can. I don’t write for one style or genre or one band or artist. I just try and write the very best song I can and then let the chips fall where they may. I’ve been so fortunate to have over 100 “cuts” now of my songs by many of my musical heroes. It is humbling and rewarding at the same time. Every time I hear one of my songs played live or on the radio it always gives me the chill bumps. I don’t care if it is a local band or a major artist‚ĶIt is an honor that musicians would consider choosing and doing a song that I have created. I plan on doing this for the rest of my life.

When did you first begin to take an interest in bluegrass music and why?

I worked out in Glacier National Park in Montana in the 70’s and I had a room mate from Ashville, NC that played a lot of Doc Watson on his guitar.  I fell in love with Doc Watson and started to learn many of Doc’s songs on the guitar. I wanted to find out more about bluegrass music and a friend of mine said, “You’ve got to go to Bean Blossom if you like bluegrass music.” So that is what I did. I packed up my Volkswagon Microbus and had a pup tent and a D-28 and camped up on Hippy Hill. I can remember the first band I heard at Bean Blossom was Lester Flatt and the Nashville Grass.  Marty Stuart was on the mandolin, but what got me was Kenny Ingram on the banjo.  They took off with Rollin’ In My Sweet Baby’s Arms at about warp 30 and my jaw dropped.  I was hooked!!!!  Since the beginning I’ve loved the pure sound of those wooden boxes. The songs come from way down deep in your gut and it is almost “primal” with me. It was like a disease that has no cure‚Ķ..but you don’t care!!!

I understand that you play several instruments and play(ed) in bands.

I studied classical piano for many years, but picked up guitar at church camp in 8th grade. I played a lot of the old folk music and then while I was working out West I met up with some friends who wanted me to be in a bluegrass band. They didn’t have a banjo picker so I volunteered to learn. I picked up an old Gibson RB-150 and set out to learn every song in the Scruggs “Bible”, I call it. Pretty soon I had a banjo lick that at least didn’t do any damage to the music. I love the banjo and still play quite a bit, but not nearly enough. From being at Bean Blossom I also fell in love with Monroe and his mandolin. I immersed myself in the Monroe style of mandolin and tried to learn every instrumental that Monroe ever wrote. I just love the power and raw emotion that Bill Monroe put into his music. Later on I picked up the bass, a little Dobro, pedal steel’ etc. In my teens I played in rock bands, playing  both the organ and electric guitar. I was in a bluegrass band in Wyoming called the Togwotee Mountain Bluegrass Band and more recently played with a central Ohio band called Common Ground and then Ridgeview. These bands made up of some fine pickers, but it was for fun and we never made any recordings.

What was the first song that you had recorded?

I had a song I wrote called Sunrise recorded by a band from Texas named Texas Rose back in the 1970s, but I didn’t know much about song writing or publishing and never did see any money from that recording. My first major bluegrass recording came when Don Rigsby included my song Bluestone Mountain on his award winning Empty Old Mailbox project. I had give a tape of the song to Ryan Holladay’s dad, Mark Holladay, and asked him to pitch it to Don (as they were friends) in exchange for having to pay me for sitting in on mandolin with the Ryan Holladay Band at Milton Harkey’s festival at Advance, NC. It was a barter that turned out pretty good for me. I know I got the better part of that deal.

I understand that you took a break of about 10 years from song writing; why was that?

It was funny. I wanted to write commercial country songs and in the early 1980s I walked the streets of Nashville pitching songs. It was fun but you sure needed thick skin and had to be able to take rejection. But it was a learning experience for me. I realize now that the songs I wrote back then were songs that I “thought” people wanted to hear. I wasn’t writing from the “HEART.”  I was NOT being true to myself and my songs just did not sound “genuine.” To me if a song is not “genuine” there is no hope for it. After years of music and pitching I was moving up in the corporate world with a large insurance company and starting a family and something had to “give.” Unfortunately, it was the music. I still picked some here and there but basically put my music away for many years. About 2000 the corporate world was taking a toll on my health, my family and my well being. I made the decision to step down from my corporate upper management job and go back to a first level employee adjusting claims basing out of my home. Now once a gain my time was my own. I had a renewed energy and sense of purpose as I re-energized my love for music and bluegrass/Americana music in general. I began to write again and just writing from the heart. Not caring if I got a “cut” or not, just trying to write the BEST song that I knew how. I’m still passionate about the music, maybe even more so than I’ve ever been!!!! I LOVE IT!!! It is like breathing for me.

Story songs are your forte; which particular story song tells the best story, do you think and why?

I wrote a story song that ended up being a tribute to troops around the world keeping our freedom. It is called With Love from Normandy.  It is a story about a person that goes up into their grandma’s attic and finds a cigar box laying on an old army uniform and some old brown army socks.  When they open the cigar box they find an letter postmarked Normandy 1944.  It is a letter that was from their grandpa, sent the day before he died at Normandy. The chorus is the entire letter. I like this one because it pulls the listener into the story and really hits deep down emotionally. Whenever I play the song I see the tissues come out and sometimes I have a hard time getting through it as well.

Which of your songs gives you most satisfaction and why?

Songs that impact people’s lives give me the most satisfaction. This many times ends up being one of my gospel songs. In particular my song Beyond the Rain continues to touch peoples lives all over the world. Not a week goes by where I don’t get and e-mail or a phone call telling my how the song has helped them through a tough time. How it has given them hope. It has been played at many funerals. One man told me that Beyond the Rain was his Dad’s favorite song. They blew up the words on a poster next to his casket and had the words on a leaflet in the bulletin. He told me they put the words in his hands before they closed the casket. NOW‚Ķ.that still moves me to tears reading his story. There is NO money in the world that could pay me for that kind of comment. It is a feeling inside that I can’t explain. Both joyful, thankful, exciting and humbling all at the same time!!!!

Have any of your songs won an award or topped any chart? If so, which?

Beyond the Rain was #1 on the gospel charts for several months and was voted “Bluegrass Gospel Song of the Year” by Singing News Magazine at the 2007 National Quartet Convention in Louisville, Kentucky. The Old Coal Mine that Larry Sparks recorded got to #3 on the Bluegrass Unlimited Charts. She’s a Stranger In His Mind, recorded by Carrie Hassler & Hard Rain, won the “Spirit Award” when it was voted by fans the “Country Song of the Year” by “Strictly Country Magazine. I’ve been fortunate to have several in the top 10 like Devil’s Road by Grasstowne and Bluestone Mountain by Don Rigsby.

What particularly inspires you to write?

I try to write every day!  Listening to great music motivates me to write.  Being around other great writers.  I love developing an idea and working with it, watching it all come together at the end.  With me it is as natural as breathing.  I feel I was born to write songs.  It is a gift and one that I try not to take for granted.  I try to dig deep down and say things that others might be too afraid to say or too hurt to just come out and say how they feel.  When they hear a song of mine, maybe they can say‚Ķ”THAT songs says exactly what I’m feeling”, and it is therapeutic in a way.  Letters and encouragement from folks around the world keeps me going.  Also, my wife, Jan, and my three children are very supportive of my passion.  It ain’t always a “picnic” being married to a songwriter.

Which comes first; the melody or the lyrics?

Actually, when I write they tend to both come at the same time. I tend to get more of an “idea” than a “hook.” I sometimes have an entire story in my head and just have to figure out how to tell the entire story in three minutes. Even when you speak a sentence it has a natural melody and meter to it. I try to take that natural meter and melody and let it fall where it will.  I try to fit the “feel” of the song around the chords, speed, mood etc. So, I tend to build the lyrics and the melody and my goal is that they fit together like a glove.

What are the secrets to writing a successful bluegrass song?

It has to come from the heart and be genuine!!! Listeners can see right through a song that is not “real.” It has to have something that every listener can relate to. When you sing about a home place you want EACH listener to be seeing THEIR own home place in their head. If you get too detailed you might lose people but if you not detailed enough it won’t paint a picture for people. It is a fine line. When you are writing about someone dying or losing a loved one there are NO words that can do it justice. There is nothing you can say that wraps up the feeling in a situation like that. BUT‚Ķ..what I try to do is “paint a picture” for the listener. It is NOT the words that cause the emotions to come rushing out‚Ķ..IT IS THE PICTURE that you have painted in the listener’s head. It is the “picture” that evokes the emotion‚ĶNOT THE WORDS!!!!!

What has experience taught you about bluegrass song writing?

Experience has taught me that you need to believe in yourself. There are many “nay-sayers,” people willing to critique and cut you down. You have to be able to dig deep into your soul, deeper than most are willing to go to write a great song. Song writing is a craft. Yes you have to have “the gift” but it is also like building a guitar. The first one might be “ok” and then you build 100 guitars and they look really good and sound really good. You look back at your 50th guitar and you thought it was “great” at the time but now you see the flaws in it. You think your 100th guitar is wonderful‚Ķuntil‚Ķdown the road after you built you 500th guitar and now you see the flaws in the 100th guitar. You just keep getting better the more you work at it. When you put a great song together you can feel it. I get the chill bumps right after I write it‚ĶI KNOW it is a good one. Then I have learned to watch people’s reaction to songs. Peoples eyes will tell you everything you need to know whether a song is great or not Song writing has taught me patience‚Ķwell I’m still learning that!!!!

Tell me about The Ghost of Silas Jordan.

The Ghost of Silas Jordan came to me as a story about a man that was wrongfully accused of a murder back probably around the civil war days.  It takes place in Tennessee. I took out a map and saw the name of a town, Caney Springs. I liked the sound and flow of those words “Caney Springs.” I noticed on the map it was just south of Franklin, Tennessee. So the story started:  “In the hills just south of Franklin and north of Caney Springs‚Ķthat’s where Silas Jordan made his home.”  I love the sound of names too. “Silas Jordan” just sounds like a kewl name. It says something about his ethnicity and to me names just have a certain cool sound.  I wrote a song that is called The Ballad of Horton Stubbs.  I saw the name “Horton Stubbs” painted on a piece of plywood next to the road in Southern Ohio. I have know idea what it was for or who Horton Stubbs is, but I built him a personality and a story.

Anyway, Silas Jordan is wrongfully accused of shooting and killing Becky Taylor. The men don’t wait for justice and they form a posse and go out to Silas’ home. They burn down his home with him in it. When the posse gets back to town they find an anonymous note that tells them they killed the wrong man because “HE” killed Becky. The valley to this day is haunted and if you go into the valley you can feel the heat of a fire on your chest. It is just “Silas Jordan comin’ home.”  It was just a matter of finding a way to tell the story and adding a good chorus to bring everything together.  I love the spooky aspect which brings the story forward to the present day.

Mark can be contacted through Brinksongs online.

Songwriter Profile – Jon Weisberger

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Jon Weisberger became serious about writing songs in 1998, having taken up the bass in his early teen-age years. Born in Yellow Springs, Ohio, and trained as a classical musician, the first songs that he wrote were recorded by Union Springs, a band that he helped to form in April 1992. A fellow member of the band at that time was Dwight McCall, who later recorded Weisberger’s song The Pathway Of My Savior (on Never Say Never Again, McCall’s 2007 album on the Rural Rhythm record label).

Subsequently, he has worked with the Comet All-Stars, Prospect Hill, Katie Laur Band and The La-Z Boys. More recently Weisberger has played bass in the Wildwood Valley Boys; Chris Jones and the Night Drivers; Larry Cordle and Lonesome Standard Time; The Lonesome Heirs; the Roland White Band; the Harley Allen Band; and Sally Jones & The Sidewinders.

Also he has done some touring with the Tony Trischka Double Banjo Bluegrass Spectacular and spent a couple of years touring with April Verch.

Weisberger has also worked on the air and behind the scenes in bluegrass radio, hosting shows in the Cincinnati area and producing several after his move to Nashville in 2002.

His songs have been recorded by a wide range of top bluegrass acts including The Chapmans (Losing Again), Jim Van Cleve (Grey Afternoon and Way It Always Seems to Go), the Infamous Stringdusters (Three Days In July), Doyle Lawson (Yesterday’s Songs) and Blue Highway (Blues on Blues).

Other cuts include My Heart’s Bouquet (The Chapmans, on the same album as Losing Again), Blown Away And Gone (Del McCoury Band on The Company We Keep), Help Me, Lord (Dwight McCall, Kentucky Peace Of Mind), Lonely Road Back Home (April Verch, Steal The Blue) and Every Shade Of Blue (Cages Bend, Now I’m Lonely).

Unreleased songs that Weisberger has written or co-written include one on the forthcoming album by The Dixie Bee-Liners, Susanville, due out in October, and one on an album by Cincinnati area artist Missy Werner, whose Dwight McCall-produced album will appear around the same time.

He occasionally writes for the Nashville Scene.

Did you grow up in a musical family?

Both my parents enjoyed listening to music – classical and folk, mostly – and my father got me started playing the recorder when I was just three or four years old.

At what age did music register with you and what were the circumstances?

I’ve been interested in music for literally longer than I can remember – I have a photo of myself holding a recorder taken when I was three. I was very absorbed in classical music as a child, taking up the oboe when I was in the 3rd grade and playing it until I graduated from high school. My father bought a guitar when I was 13 – he intended to learn to play, but lost interest in fairly short order and passed it along to me. I taught myself some chords out of a book, but took up the (electric) bass soon after, playing in local rock and blues bands through high school. After a year or so of “general purpose” collegiate studies, I transferred to the California Institute of the Arts as a music major, and graduated with a BFA degree in 1975.

You are classically trained; how did that training affect your bluegrass song writing?

As near as I can tell, very little! I think it might have sharpened my analytical skills in terms of being able to understand the structure of songs, but that’s about all. Going through a bluegrass “apprenticeship” – working with local and regional, then national bands and trying to pay attention to what I could learn from folks who had been in the music longer than I – counted for a lot more.

What prompted you to start song writing?

Back in 1992, when Dwight McCall, Randy Pollard and I formed Union Springs, we approached Lou Ukelson at Vetco Records about doing an album. He was receptive to the idea, but said he wanted some original songs, and that was incentive enough for me to start writing. I came up with what I thought would make a great ballad called A Faded Picture, but when I pitched it to Dwight to sing, he thought it would sound better up-tempo, and that’s how we recorded it. For the next few years, I wrote a couple of songs each time we went to record, and wound up with three on our second, all-gospel album (Dwight’s since recorded two of those on solo projects), and two on our third and final one.

One of those was a ballad called My Heart’s Bouquet, which Chris Davis (now with Marty Raybon) learned when he was a member of the band in 1998. He continued to sing it with other groups, and in 2000, while I was at Bean Blossom with the Wildwood Valley Boys, I suggested to John Chapman that he listen to Chris sing it there, because it might be a good one for The Chapmans. He did, liked it (and subsequently recorded it), and asked if I had anything else. I had exactly one other song, which Chris had sung with Union Springs but which we hadn’t recorded, and it took me about a week to find a rehearsal tape and send it to John. The Chapmans cut that one, too – Losing Again – and it did well for them at bluegrass radio. After that I started taking songwriting more seriously and got into co-writing in a big way.

When did you move to Nashville and why?

I moved to Nashville at the very end of 2002 – in fact, my first gig as a Nashville resident was as a member of the Sidemen at the New Year’s Eve Station Inn show welcoming in 2003. I had wanted to really pursue a career as a professional musician, and while the Cincinnati area (where I was living at the time) had many things to recommend it, it had become clear to me that the ability to support very many professionals – at least in bluegrass – wasn’t among them. As Eddie Stubbs told me shortly after my arrival, if you want groceries, you need to go to the grocery store, and for me that was Nashville.

Who has influenced your song writing and in what ways?

I don’t think many people who write for bluegrass artists can escape the influence of greats like Lester Flatt and Carter Stanley; I certainly haven’t. I also have an immense appreciation for some later bluegrass writers, like Pete Goble, Paul Craft, Randall Hylton and especially Aubrey Holt, who did and do so well at writing straightforward, satisfying melodies and plain-spoken yet vivid lyrics. Tom T. Hall and Harley Allen are two more whose work I’ve appreciated greatly. I’ve also been influenced, of course, by folks I’ve written with. My most frequent writing partner has been Mark Simos, and I’ve gotten a lot from him with respect to being precise about melodies, and how to balance distinctive language with everyday speech.

You are most often noted as a bass player; what instrument(s) do you use in your song writing sessions?

On my own, I often work on songs in my head; when writing with others, the guitar.

Tell me about the writing of Three Days In July, which you co-wrote; from where did the inspiration for that song come?

Mark (Simos) and I wrote that in the spring of 2003; I don’t remember whether the invasion of Iraq was already under way, but it was on our minds, and we wanted to write a song that would address the tragedy of war but also offer some reminder of common humanity. Our thoughts naturally turned to the Civil War, as several bluegrass songs have used that as a setting to touch on similar themes, and we thought it would be neat to turn the usual bluegrass identification with the southern side on its head – and that led us to think of Gettysburg, one of the few major battlefields in the north. I think Mark already had some melodic fragments in mind, and as the son of an historian, I was familiar with the proposition that the Confederate army had moved on Gettysburg because there was a shoe factory or two there – and once we put those two things together, the song was written in a couple of hours.

About a year after that, Mark and I organized a demo recording session with Jeremy Garrett, Ned Luberecki and Stephen Mougin. Jeremy really took a liking to Three Days In July, and I thought he did a great job singing it, so although we pitched the song to a few artists, we also turned down a couple of requests by others for permission to record it because of his interest. (That turned out to be an excellent demo session, by the way, as the Del McCoury Band recorded two other songs from the same batch – Blown Away And Gone, which Mark and I wrote together, and Mark’s Eyes That Won’t Meet Mine.)

Yesterday’s Songs on the new Doyle Lawson CD sounds as though it had interesting origins.

About a year before I left the Cincinnati area, I met a young singer there named Lisa Shaffer, who was getting ready to graduate from Northern Kentucky University. We took a stab at putting a band together, but it didn’t work out, and she moved to Nashville about 6 months before I did. Lisa’s a great songwriter who’s had cuts with Dailey & Vincent and Rhonda Vincent, among others; we kept in touch occasionally, and at one point I introduced her to Mark Simos, and the two of them did a little writing together. At the 2008 World of Bluegrass, Mark wanted to write with each of us, and it wound up being most convenient to all get together at the same time. As we were casting around for an idea, Lisa talked about singing with her family as a youngster, and from there we moved along pretty quickly with the first verse, the chorus and part of the second verse. We finished the song the next day in the 4th floor lobby of the Renaissance Hotel, as Mark had already checked out of his room, and on the work tape we made, you can hear people getting in and out of elevators in the background.

A few weeks later, when I ran into Brandon Godman (then playing fiddle for Doyle Lawson) and learned that they were in the studio, I gave him a copy of the worktape on the spur of the moment – and he called from the studio a couple of days later asking me to email him the lyrics. I think Doyle’s cut turned out wonderfully, and the fact that it marks the first time he’s played the banjo on one of his records is a really cool bonus.

Which of your songs have charted or won you an award?

To date, only Losing Again has charted, reaching #5 on the Bluegrass Unlimited airplay chart; it got me a nomination for Song (or maybe Songwriter) of the Year from SPBGMA, an award I was happy to lose to Tom T. and Dixie Hall.

Which of your songs give you most satisfaction and why?

That’s a tough question to answer. Losing Again is one I’m pretty proud of; it was not only my first cut, but has been picked up by a number of bands around the country and continent, and that’s certainly a rewarding experience. Generally speaking, the ones I tend to feel best about are either written within pretty traditional bounds, like My Turn To Laugh, or pretty much completely outside of the bluegrass framework, like The Very Next Hello (both are on my album). I’m also particularly proud of Lonely Road Back Home, which April Verch recorded, and a song I wrote with Stephen Mougin called Cold Lonesome Night, which appears on a forthcoming Chris Jones & The Nightdrivers album – in both cases because pitching to an artist you’re working for or have worked for is a tough proposition!

Have you written any songs with a particular singer in mind? If so, what examples are there of that and what particular song writing techniques did you employ?

I’ve never spent much time trying to write for a particular artist. I’m not opposed to it in theory, but most of the time I’ve been writing, the song has kind of dictated its own direction, and the idea of bending it to fit one artist has tended to run counter to that. I’m a pretty strong believer in the idea of writing the song and then seeing who (or what style of music) it might fit.

What inspires you to write? Do you write from 9am to 5pm [office hours]?

I don’t have fixed hours for writing as such, but since most of my work these days is with other writers, there are definitely prime appointment times, typically 10 or 11 a.m. and going for a couple of hours. Co-writing imposes a certain kind of discipline in that regard that I find very helpful. Normally, when I get an idea, or a line, or a musical idea, I make note of it, and then when I get with a co-writer, I can pull out those notes and see what might be inspirational with that person at that time.

As you have become more experienced how has your song writing evolved?

I’ve certainly become more open-minded and adventurous as a songwriter, and have become a lot more comfortable with the process of following a song in the direction that it seems to want to go, rather than trying to force it to fit a preconceived idea of what it should be. At the same time, I think I’ve gained a better sense of how things work – balancing unusual verses with more straightforward choruses, for instance, or having a clearer sense of when a song needs (or doesn’t need) a bridge. And perhaps most importantly, I’ve become a lot more confident that a session will produce something useful!

What advice would you give for someone just starting to write bluegrass songs?

First, to listen analytically to favorite songs, and to try to find common elements among them that can serve as models for one’s own writing. Second, to keep track of ideas, lines, melodies; don’t rely on your memory to hang onto them indefinitely. Third, at least consider the idea of co-writing, especially with someone more experienced; quite a few writers are open to the idea of co-writing, even with folks they don’t know very well, and you can learn a tremendous amount from the experience. Fourth, seek out critiques from people whose opinions you respect; it can be an humbling experience, but the benefits far outweigh the discomforts. Lastly, don’t be afraid to get “out there” if a song seems logically to be heading that way; there’s more variety than ever in bluegrass, and more artists open to recording less obviously conventional material.

You took the unusual (unique?) step of putting out a CD of your own songs that were effectively demo-ed by other singers, but it was at the same time a bona fide release.

Though it’s a stylistically broader album, John Pennell did something similar about 10 years ago, and I hadn’t forgotten about it when I set out to do mine. The idea made a lot of sense to me, since I’m not in any respect a lead singer, and I have a lot of great singers among my friends. Hardly any of the songs existed in any form other than a rough work tape, and as I thought about it, I realized that I could come up with quality recordings for not much more than it would cost to make full-band demos – so that’s what I did!

Since then have you written more songs in which artists have shown interest?

Most of the songs on the project were at least a year old at the time it was recorded, and I’ve written quite a bit since then – in fact, as noted, Yesterday’s Songs was written after the project was done, and there are a couple of others written since then in which artists have shown an interest. I don’t want to provide details, because as Ronnie Bowman once told me, it’s best not to say anything about getting a cut until it’s on a CD shrink-wrapped and in the racks at Wal-Mart (!), but it looks likely that I’ll have a few more cuts out this year – and, I hope, more to come after that.

You can hear all 10 tracks from Jon’s CD on his MySpace page.

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