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		<title>By: Lynwood Lunsford</title>
		<link>http://bluegrasstoday.com/rambling-rooks-frozen-out-of-bristol-take-bowling-green-by-storm/#comment-13442</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynwood Lunsford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I talked to Roy McMillan and here is how the confusion began. 

As before mentioned, the song came out in 1973 on Roy&#039;s Rebel Records album, HIGH COUNTRY. At some point, Lowell Varney and Landon Messer heard the song and began to do it. They may have even recorded it. Ralph Stanley heard their version and picked it up for himself. He had no idea who wrote the song and just assumed that Varney/Messer wrote it (they both did write many songs), so when he recorded it in 1981, he mistakenly listed them as writers. And of course, that mistake continued until the LRB recording, when it was brought to Roy McMillan&#039;s attention. Unfortunately, this sort of thing happened all too often back in those days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talked to Roy McMillan and here is how the confusion began. </p>
<p>As before mentioned, the song came out in 1973 on Roy&#8217;s Rebel Records album, HIGH COUNTRY. At some point, Lowell Varney and Landon Messer heard the song and began to do it. They may have even recorded it. Ralph Stanley heard their version and picked it up for himself. He had no idea who wrote the song and just assumed that Varney/Messer wrote it (they both did write many songs), so when he recorded it in 1981, he mistakenly listed them as writers. And of course, that mistake continued until the LRB recording, when it was brought to Roy McMillan&#8217;s attention. Unfortunately, this sort of thing happened all too often back in those days.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivor Trueman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivor Trueman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ralph Stanley recorded the song circa 1981 and it featured on his &quot;16 Years&quot; album for River Tracks Records (1986) and reissued on Copper Creek (1995). A rejigged CD version of the album called &quot;Can&#039;t You Hear The Mountains Calling&quot; was released on Rounder (2009). The CD gives the songwriting credit as Landon Messer &amp; Lowell Varney / Jaymore Music.

I&#039;ve not heard the Roy McMillan version (yet), but from the quoted lyrics, it&#039;s the same song.

Great song!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph Stanley recorded the song circa 1981 and it featured on his &#8220;16 Years&#8221; album for River Tracks Records (1986) and reissued on Copper Creek (1995). A rejigged CD version of the album called &#8220;Can&#8217;t You Hear The Mountains Calling&#8221; was released on Rounder (2009). The CD gives the songwriting credit as Landon Messer &amp; Lowell Varney / Jaymore Music.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not heard the Roy McMillan version (yet), but from the quoted lyrics, it&#8217;s the same song.</p>
<p>Great song!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lynwood Lunsford</title>
		<link>http://bluegrasstoday.com/rambling-rooks-frozen-out-of-bristol-take-bowling-green-by-storm/#comment-13438</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynwood Lunsford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a problem Shannon! I can tell you that the second printing of the LRB album, had Roy McMillan credited as the writer. I can also tell you that a court ruled against Mr Varney&#039;s claim on the song. Other than that, I don&#039;t know! Unless it is 2 different songs with the same title. The chorus on Roy&#039;s song goes:

&quot;When you go walking after midnight
Over on the wrong side of town.
Go down any street, many wandering souls you meet.
Who&#039;s lives are broken like mine&quot; 

Roy called the song &quot;Wandering in the Darkness&quot;. It was on a 1973 Rebel Records album SLP-1517 called HIGH COUNTRY, Roy McMillan and the High Country Boys.

If this is the same song, the Stanley Brothers never recorded it. Ralph may have covered it in the &#039;70s, after Roy put it out. 

When the LRB came out with this song......with it credited to Lowell Varney......I spoke with Bill Vernon about it. Bill confirmed that Roy McMillan did indeed write the song. That is why the credits were changed on the second printing of the LRB album.

Other than that, I don&#039;t know anything about it. Maybe it&#039;s a different song altogether!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a problem Shannon! I can tell you that the second printing of the LRB album, had Roy McMillan credited as the writer. I can also tell you that a court ruled against Mr Varney&#8217;s claim on the song. Other than that, I don&#8217;t know! Unless it is 2 different songs with the same title. The chorus on Roy&#8217;s song goes:</p>
<p>&#8220;When you go walking after midnight<br />
Over on the wrong side of town.<br />
Go down any street, many wandering souls you meet.<br />
Who&#8217;s lives are broken like mine&#8221; </p>
<p>Roy called the song &#8220;Wandering in the Darkness&#8221;. It was on a 1973 Rebel Records album SLP-1517 called HIGH COUNTRY, Roy McMillan and the High Country Boys.</p>
<p>If this is the same song, the Stanley Brothers never recorded it. Ralph may have covered it in the &#8217;70s, after Roy put it out. </p>
<p>When the LRB came out with this song&#8230;&#8230;with it credited to Lowell Varney&#8230;&#8230;I spoke with Bill Vernon about it. Bill confirmed that Roy McMillan did indeed write the song. That is why the credits were changed on the second printing of the LRB album.</p>
<p>Other than that, I don&#8217;t know anything about it. Maybe it&#8217;s a different song altogether!</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Turner</title>
		<link>http://bluegrasstoday.com/rambling-rooks-frozen-out-of-bristol-take-bowling-green-by-storm/#comment-13436</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mr. Lunsford,

Thank you for taking the time to read my article, and for bringing your concern to our attention. 

According to my research, no fewer than 29 song lyrics sites credit the Stanley Brothers with having recorded the song, &quot;When You Go Walking After Midnight.&quot; This includes sites like metrolyrics.com, which is owned by CBS Interactive Music Group in cooperation with Billboard magazine and others, and is considered by many to be the go-to site for fans and professionals. 

This notwithstanding, I did look deeper into the question and found that at the very least, Ralph Stanley and the Clinch Mountain Boys recorded the song on a collection called Sixteen Years, for the Copper Creek label.

Unfortunately for Mr. McMillan, every single resource I checked does credit Mr. Varney as the songwriter, so the Lonesome River Band was not the first or only act to make that listing.

I will continue to look into the point, and will be more than glad to make any changes where error exists, including if Ralph was the only Stanley to record the song.

Thank you again for expressing your concerns; I invite you to do so at any time.

Shannon Turner]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mr. Lunsford,</p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to read my article, and for bringing your concern to our attention. </p>
<p>According to my research, no fewer than 29 song lyrics sites credit the Stanley Brothers with having recorded the song, &#8220;When You Go Walking After Midnight.&#8221; This includes sites like metrolyrics.com, which is owned by CBS Interactive Music Group in cooperation with Billboard magazine and others, and is considered by many to be the go-to site for fans and professionals. </p>
<p>This notwithstanding, I did look deeper into the question and found that at the very least, Ralph Stanley and the Clinch Mountain Boys recorded the song on a collection called Sixteen Years, for the Copper Creek label.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for Mr. McMillan, every single resource I checked does credit Mr. Varney as the songwriter, so the Lonesome River Band was not the first or only act to make that listing.</p>
<p>I will continue to look into the point, and will be more than glad to make any changes where error exists, including if Ralph was the only Stanley to record the song.</p>
<p>Thank you again for expressing your concerns; I invite you to do so at any time.</p>
<p>Shannon Turner</p>
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		<title>By: Lynwood Lunsford</title>
		<link>http://bluegrasstoday.com/rambling-rooks-frozen-out-of-bristol-take-bowling-green-by-storm/#comment-13433</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynwood Lunsford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice article but I just wanted to set the record straight about the song, &quot;When You Go Walking After Midnight&quot;. That song is not a Stanley Brothers song, and never was. That song was written by Roy McMillan and first recorded on Rebel Records by his band in the early 70s......long after Carter Stanley had passed away. 

When the song was included on an LRB recording back in the early &#039;90s, it was wrongly credited as being written by Lowell Varney. This mistake was quite painful to Roy McMillan, so I wanted to correct it here quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article but I just wanted to set the record straight about the song, &#8220;When You Go Walking After Midnight&#8221;. That song is not a Stanley Brothers song, and never was. That song was written by Roy McMillan and first recorded on Rebel Records by his band in the early 70s&#8230;&#8230;long after Carter Stanley had passed away. </p>
<p>When the song was included on an LRB recording back in the early &#8217;90s, it was wrongly credited as being written by Lowell Varney. This mistake was quite painful to Roy McMillan, so I wanted to correct it here quickly.</p>
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